Ive been going out a lot recently to improve my game / meet more people, but when a friend dared me to steal this guys gf (which I did ) I've gotten stuck in stealing gfs. Personally it gives almost a sense of accomplishment but is this a phase that most of you guys have gotten through?

Nope, please tell me how.

Alot of guys here respect the "no stealing gf" rules. You should get out of this phase quickly or it will just come back to bite you.

Let me put it down this way.

You have a girlfriend, you've been out for 6 months and things are going great. One day, this dude comes along, throws some canned routine he learned from one of the greatest pick up artists in the world and like that BAM she ran off with him. You then find out a few days later that this man was not attracted to this girl in any way, he did not respect her (clearly) and he stole your girlfriend because he merely got betted to. Now he's with his mate high 5ing because of your loss and his win? How the fuck would you feel?
I condone girlfriend stealing if the bf is a dick to her and you think that you could take better care of her but stealing a gf because of a bet? Heck man I wouldn't even call you a pick up artist I would call you a genuine prick if that's apart of your game.

Get it out of your head mate that the Venusian arts is NOT a game where you can simply make bets, it has a little morality to go with it and you should at least try to respect that. I've heard some PUA's have had their heads caved in by bricks or boots because they've pulled of stunts like this. As WitandFun said "get out of this phase quickly or it will just come back and bite you."

However, to answer your question.. I have stolen girlfriends before and have gave them the best time of their life (as they said) not only with sex but by genuine conversations and showing them the world in a way they have never seen before. Stealing them from their boyfriends never gave me a feeling of accomplishment however them thanking me for the good times afterwards did. I'm not on this world nor do I sarge to break peoples' hearts, guys or girls.. I sarge to change the lives of others and show them that we can enjoy things sexually/non sexually minus a relationship and create fascinating memories from it. If I was to totally scrap this theory and steal girls merely on bets then I don't think I would ever get over that "stuck" feeling.

AFCCoffee

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"We are what we repeatedly do. excellence therefore is a habit and not an act."

I used to be heavily against 'stealing' gfriends. Now I wouldnt say Im all for it but I do have one belief which ive only formed in the past year or so....

if a guy and girl want to screw, then it would only be unnatural for them not to. It is a boyfriends responsibility to keep his girl interested in HIM and wanting to screw HIM. This is the way it works in the animal kingdom and this is the way it works with humans (well it used to, and still should I believe). The problem is that when 2 people are married it obviously can cause other complications (legal wise) so in certain cases it might be worth being 'unnatural' for that particular scenario and give it a miss. Look at the end of the day if your gfriend wants to screw another guy, he has 'defeated' you in the alpha circle and by natures law, deserves her more than you. This may seem like barbaric thinking, but in our simplest form, this is how we are.

I see where you think it was prikish and the guy was a real ass to her, most likely why it was so easy, but I did end up having an MLTR with her its not apart of my normal game but it does happen. I do almost all natural game execpt the cube and people tell me they are just pulled to me so I dont have any regrets

Well I guess in that sense it does sound a bit better I just don't agree with the bet thing. It makes this all sound like a game when it's obviously something more and the proof of that would be your MLTR. As long as she enjoyed investing her time in you I guess there's no problem.

AFCCoffee

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"At the end of the day these are women's lives we're dealing with, not mere entertainment."

"We are what we repeatedly do. excellence therefore is a habit and not an act."

youre blaming all on the player, the girl KNOWS, she has a BF, she's not a lil' lam, it was her responsibility as well!!!

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When you have these sort of PUA skills that we are all attaining it is the playa's fault lol.

I'm not saying it's not the girl's responsibility as well I'm just saying that stealing a girl merely for a high 5 and a bet is wrong.

AFCCoffee

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"At the end of the day these are women's lives we're dealing with, not mere entertainment."

"We are what we repeatedly do. excellence therefore is a habit and not an act."

The way I see it... Personally, there are about 3.25 billion men in the world that would steal any 1 of my 3 GFs in a second if given the opportunity. Again it comes down to moral values and personal rules. I for 1 have no problem stealing GFs from other guys, just not from my friends and fellow PUAs due to the respect I have for these guys.

Please, how many times have other men hit on your GFs throughout your lives? Why are we even debating this... If I'm not gonna fuck it someone else will

The Game doesnt give you the ability to control minds. It allows you to better understand and manipulate attraction. When you game a girl with a boyfriend and close successfully, you havnt made her do anything she didnt want to do. Therefor you only have to face the moral dilema of if you realy care about the other guy. Perhaps you have done him a favour. Or perhaps you have done her a favor by giving her the confidence to break up with him.

Ive broken up 3 relationships while ive been involved in the community and i regret none of them. Each time i geve the woman the confidence to get out of a shit relationship. I did her a favour and happly fucked off an excuse for a guy.

In my opinion there is a checklist to gaming a girl with a boyfriend:

1. Have you been honest about what you are looking for?

2. Does she seem happy about him

3. Has she been drinking alot

If you answer Y,N,N then its fair play if no then its not.

Its down to you, you deal with the consequences. At the end of the day these are peoples lifes not mere entertainment.

Hope this helps

Regards, Saint

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Great post Saint

EXACTLY !

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