So a good friend of mine decided to set up a semi-blind date between me and her very cute friend who she said was very cool (and seems to genuinely be so) so obviously I was down for it. I got her number and was texting her for a bit and we were supposed to go on a double date (me, my friend, her bf, and the target). I go to school away from home, and that weekend we got a crazy snowstorm and I wasn't able to come back that weekend.

Following that weekend this girl got back with her bf, and I kind of abandoned the cause as I was away and didn't wanna jump into a complicated situation.

I came back home for spring break this week though, and decided to just give it a shot. She was interested and we're going out on friday.

Here are the issues though:

I have a suspended drivers license(working on getting it back) and am gonna have to take a cab with her. This poses a problem for me since usually I'd wanna kiss close when i drop her off in my car.

Were supposed to go out tomorrow(7pm) and I'm thinking of doing this:

- Casual dinner/grabbing of drinks, hoping to get out of there quickly
then either

Then im considering one of the two

- Walk through central park (i like in brooklyn but am planning to go to manhattan which is like a 25 min drive (is this too much of a commute?). Reason i wanna do the city is it's alot more exciting and Brooklyn gets old very easily to those who live there.

or - Ice Skating in central park (is this more of a second date idea or do you guys feel it's fine for a 1st date too)


And if it's going rly well:

I was thinking that if it's going well to possibly go to the top of the empire state since it seems like a good place to kiss close assuming i escalate properly, but my worry is that it's too public of a place and she might not be comfortable w/ that. My reason for top of empire state is it's kinda romatic, but being so high up creates a feeling of excitement and a bit of fear.

Do you guys feel like this date makes me come off as trying too hard, or just too much overall?

I'd also like to point out that I'm more interested in finding a good relationship now than just a good lay, im graduating college soon and it's become alot more important to me as of recently.

I'd love to hear what u guys think, and thx in advance

If you build rapport well and escalate then your date ideas sound fine. I like the going for a walk idea best, if its a clear sky (moon and stars) even better haha, and like you cant be seen as over the top cos how could you have known that it was gonna be a clear night right ?

Only negative is it depends on what type of girl she is, your empire state kiss close could scare some girls off cos they think its too much too soon, or they have some sort of issues i dunno.

Most girls will melt though if you do it right, good luck!

thx for the response,

ive never been to the empire state building, so i could just tell her that and see if she wants to do it, its honest and it might come off less strong

if i go for the empire state building that means its going rly well so i doubt that will be a problem

I'm more worried about spending too much and coming on too strong (though im pretty good with not doing that naturally), im just worried that its just too much and a bit too much money and might come off needy that im spending $ on cab dinner etc,

lemme know what u guys think,

dont spend too much money because you will come off as a pushover. if shes willing to chip in or pay for herself at any point let her.

the thing about this is we're both russian and it's rly accepted for the guy to pay on a date for russian americans, so im up in arms about this, PUAs say dont overspend and im def trying to cut down the spending as much as possible, but if she asks to pay and i straight up let her pay it might come off just the opposite way, im thinking if she asks to pay for half of dinner im gonna:

laugh and tell her that ill pay for this, and jokingly say we can go to a pawn shop so she can buy me a crown so I can walk around w/ her around my arm and tell people im the king of manhattan, and then tell her that she can pay for something else (I'd figure something out thats not expensive) and make sure she gets me that. Possibly saying something like, get me something that will make me remember this night(if its going well)

Figure this is a good balance between possibly coming off as cheap or uncultured (due to the russian culture difference)

I understand you're Russian and your country's norms are different from ours but bear with me. It's good to see that you're on a date with her, well done but what you have planned tomorrow really seems a drain on your money.
I study natural pick-up, I make structures for myself, rules for myself, things I should and shouldn't do on the pick up.

One of my rules is not to make a date expensive on myself or the girl because it can make her think the following: 1. I'm a push over and I'm being needy because I'm paying the whole date. Or #2 if it is expensive on her then she is going to home thinking "wow I'm nearly skint" this will put her off going on another date with you.

Don't get me wrong, the expensive dates can come just wait a little while, do something a little more inexpensive such as lazer quests they can be real fun and they don't cost much.

Good luck man
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