The date was good, lots of fun and conversation. The kino early in the night was going well as we made it back to my place. After some TV and food the night heated up with some playful messing around UNTIL I go in for the K close. I shrug it off then proceed escalation till once again I get blocked at the k close. The night was pretty much the same EVEN when she went home. No kiss but only a hug.

My kino needs practice sure, but why so many hoops god damn it lol.

I'm glad you notice that if you didn't K-close her you didn't build enough attraction. because unless her lips are sowed shut, if she's at your place, and u didn't pull it off you must've not doing something right (if at all)..

You didn't specify enough of what went on your date, so i can't really help you. But here are two really easy things that help me out that most guys don't do..

I think if you read Gunwitch's (i think thats his name) method that would help you out.. Yes you have to kino and all that, but the voice plays an important role.. Its not only conversation based like the Mystery method. I think when you talk in that "i just had sex with you" bedroom voice it doubles your chances of a K/F close... The best part is that they don't notice that your talking differently (softer and slower).. instead they start talking to you in their bedroom voice and you know what that leads to..

well thats something that helped me out..

also synchronization works.. like do whatever she's doing but subtly... eg: If she's lifts her drink you do the same. if she lays back you do the same.. if she cross her arms you do the same" just do it subtly so it doesn't seem obvious (99.99 percent of the time she wont notice you copying her unless you have steven segall acting skills).. its some psychological stuff that has been proven to build attraction..

these two little things can easily build attraction without worrying about negs and stupid stuff like that..

... define "kino was going well" by the story I understand that you didn'r really escalated , you didn't kissed the girl, how did you escalate, you can't JUMP from thumb wrestling to a kiss

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"StreetLight!! Stop seeing every problem in life like it's a chick you didn't hit on!"

oh my gawd your so right. you can make a sleeper agent out of her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18BBoPwwqOg

Gunwitch Method is the one. I've been following it and it payed off a few weeks ago:P

As for my kino escalation (which needs work) started of with all the light stuff, accidental kino followed by deliberate kino etc. hands, arms shoulders, to the closer proximity stuff etc etc. I did change tone and slow the chat down and eye contact, even tried some stealth seduction tips. After re-reading gunwitch there were a few key points I missed.

One point I noticed after was I jumped through a couple hoops. And I think I pause too much during some of the kino, like rubbing the back/leg/stomach.

great to hear that....
It takes practice.. I learned that the mystery method is only effective when your dealing with girls in sets... gunwitch method can't really be applied to that.. but i love that guys work.definately the way to go when its one on one..