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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:14 am 
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So summer after grade 9, I met this girl. I met her at a family party type thing in a hall. Anyways she was alright, i didnt like her that much. Then I started talkin to her alot. I mean soo much that we became super good friends, talkin every day every hour. Then she gave me a hint that she liked me, at that time i liked her quite alot. I asked her out n we dated.

The thing is, I met her once before we actually got into a relationship. Like after i got her msn, i only talked to her on msn. after we got close friends, i met her agian and then in grade 10 like i think mid grade 10, i asked her out... over phone, but havnt seen her in a while ( she had hot pictures styll). When I mean asked out, i dont mean like yea just a date, when i was younger, i assumed asking out was just getting right into the relationship, im sure alot of ppl did cause she did too. So its not like here lets date and see if we are compatible. We were boyfriend and girlfriend, and we didnt see each other in so long in person. I felt thats what screwed everything up, I was very insecure, thought shit what if she doesnt like my looks (evne tho she said yes ).

After getting in relationship, we broke up in a month. went on dates every weekend so prolly 3 or 4 dates.. i think it was 3 so not even a full month actually. I felt i didnt want to kiss her and she wanted to kiss me, ( I didnt feel like it was always thinkin bout my insecurities and i felt she was not a good girlfriend either... not as expected). <truth is, at that time i wanted some real relationship, one that i can yu know last, maybe introduce to parents etc... But I know all of u guys , and evne my self now, this girl is the perfect girl. HB 8 or 9 just because she was like understanding, talked bout sex acted sexy, super chill, played video games!.>

I am going to cut this down short for u guys cause i know u might not read if its too long.

Anyways, me and her dont work out. we had an argument and we broke up. Thats when I started lookin into Venusaisian arts. I learnt some stuff , watched David De angelo Doubl Datin series.. I didnt read all of mystery method but i got some basics. ( stopped reading before m3 model) Anyways what I dont understand is, ever since she broke up with me ( i still think it oculd be because of my looks and i currently have insecurities), iv never picked up a girl or gotten a girlfriend.

Now I rarly try to game girls, I dont game girls in my school because i know pretty much everyone my age and i dont like anyone. I game new girls that i meet at parties which i rarely go.

SO far I have 0 success rate and hmm atleast 5 fails. they seemed to be getting better and better, like on one i got up to asking her number, but she said as friends and her ex bf so they just broke up which is why she was flirting with me probably.

Why am I failing, why cant i get a girlfriend, am i doing worse than before ? I got a girlfriend before and it was without use of game... now i became cocky and funny , lost my femail friends and turned to an 'afc'.

I was thinking of looking into natural game because this hsit is not working! FUCK.

I'm currently in grade 12, I do not think im going to prom. I hate my school and i dont have a date... so why wud i go.

What is your advice?

-Socrates the AFC


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:57 am 
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Dude,Im 18 and weigh about 115 pounds. If I can get a girl......u can too. All I do is draw,read and listen to music ALL FUCKING DAY IN SCHOOL but when i go out.....Im TOAST. Be the chill guy at school that talks to all the girls and gets invited to all the parties,but at the parties you must out last EVERY OTHER GUY THERE!!!!! Add fun to the party by going online and learning drinking games....king's cup is my favorite! But learn ur shit and examine urself. Then see where r ur weak points and tune them up. Now this girl u've been on for sooooo long.....CUT THAT LOOSE. Pay minimum attention,be friends but not close friends,in a year get back to her with 2 girls in ur arms and leave them for her.STUDY UR MATERIAL!!!!!!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:20 pm 
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You, my friend, suffer from PSE. Poor self esteem.

I can tell because i was in your shoes merely 3 years ago, when I hadn't learned about the game.

Now, i'm not one who is easily convicned he is cool, and so I won't bathe you in the usual "You have to trust in your look, you are a beautiful human being !". That is the sort of lies i don't even dare to push on GIRLS anymore :p

What I will tell you however, is 2 things which i was happy to hear myself (even though it took some time to bloom to full effect)

1) Girls are not attracted EXCLUSIVELY to looks. "But wait... All those guys called "cute" by the girls... They are getting laid... SO WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FRANK ???"

Wowowo, Let me finish ! Those guys are cute because they are lucky. BUT they become attractive only when they are confident. (and yeah they got confident naturally because they are good looking)

So what are we to do we the uglies ? (or I, the not so confident in my looks)

Well we SIMULATE confidence. We don't give a fig, We stroll around with an undeserved sense of accomplishment.

I want you to tell yourself : " Hi, my name is socrates and I'm not only UGLY, BUT succesful with chicks !" (it might be only partially true or even entirely wrong, what matters is that you feel like the top of the food chain)

2) When I was your age, I had only ONE girlfriend without game, then crossed a year of loneliness while learning the game !
THE GAME IS SHIT ! I HATE IT ! JUST A SCAM !

Wo, It works a bit...

Hey, hello, A cute girl interested...




Look i've had 5 girlfriends !






WOOHOO I GET LAID ON COMMAND !

Yes my point is : you will have a pain period during which you'll make what seems like the most effort and have the LEAST result you ever had. But my friend, once you crossed that period, you're not only into a river of succesful social interaction, you're ACTUALLY deciding which part of the river you want to navigate, instead of floating arounf like 90% of mankind.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:40 pm 
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Man, I can relate. I can give you this piece of advice though... High School is the goddamn devil if you are in an awkward stage/have low self esteem. It's tough to change people's perception of you in highschool, you can't go from quiet introvert to jock playboy overnight. Especially in Grade 12, when everyone has their cliques/groups established. I didn't even go to my prom because I was a scrawny doppy looking kid, who didn't have the balls to ask a girl. I became very self-conscious, and just hung out with a group of guys, never interacting with girls.

University is a whole different story. You have a chance to start fresh, with many many more potential people to meet/hook up with. From day 1 at university you can be who you choose to be. I agree with El Frank in that learning certain aspects of the game will definitely help your confidence and increase your success with girls. Of course, you have to make positive changes in your life as well. I used to be swimming in my dress shirts and wore baggy hoodies around all the time. Hit a clothing store to buy some fitted shirts, hit the fucking gym... not just for chicks, but for yourself. I went from a scarwny 145LBS coming out of highschool to 170, and what a world of difference it makes for your confidence...

So to sum it up, look to make positive changes in your life. To your image, to your inner game. I wish I had known about the game in University, but I have just recently stumbled upon it. I know its tough now being in high school, and this is kind of a cop-out on advice, but all I can say is it gets so much better than highschool, if you can put time and effort into making it better. I'm 24 now, since Highschool, none of my buddies have changed, but they are all astounded when we go to a club and girls are buying me drinks, making out with me at the bar etc... It can happen, with some work, you can turn this all around. It's just a phase. Good luck and just know there are so many other guys out there in the same boat as you. Work at it and you can look back at high school you and have a good laugh, like I do now.


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