[Story]

Well I went to this party to go see some old friends. It was a dance for this event and it was day before valintines. Anyways, I went there and I was very lonely, my friiends were not friends anymore, they moved on and I am not part of their crew or friend circle anymore. Thats when I knew i was solo and alone and that this night was not going to be good.

I was sitting at a table that had new ppl, so I was very excited to meet the new girls that were comming. I went to go get food in the mean time and in the line I saw this one girl lookin at me for a second. I caught her eye, and I continued on. I was in line with 2 of my so called friends who are girls, they are the only ones that i can consider friends if anything. Anyways the friends were not that hot or w/e but they were girls so I was with them talkin to them. Now what I awlays do at the food place is ask what the food is. Its indian food , and I pretend that I dont know my culture so that I can ask the lady or girl beside me. I did this once before... easy way to talk to a girl.

Anyways I asked the hot girl who i saw look at me, what the food was, and I made her laugh easily. I let her take the food before me and she said " awww thats so cute". That imediatly made me think that yea this girl likes me! I asked her where she was sitting, she said (2 tables down). I told her im all alone here, and she said dont worry our tables pretty close. I told her Il see her later.

I go to my table and still no one there, I end up sitting alone instead of sitting at the 'friends table' because thers no room there plus they dont talk to me much. I sat alone thinking that hmm maybe this gives girls such a great opportunity to approach me. I am at that moment fully approachable by girls, but what do u know, no girls come to me. If a girl saw a hot guy sitting by himself, she for sure would go up to him dont u think? That girl I met at the buffet shud have came to me but she didnt. So my friends come and tell me what the hell am i doing etc come with them. I tell em naw i need a seat cause i did need a seat.

Day goes on, i didnt talk to that girl at the food place... but one time she walks by my table an nods her head at me.. the thing is i kinda forgot which was the girl i talked to and i didnt know her name but looks like she rememberd me. She sits down, I shud have called her over but i thought she was comming to me...she wasnt.

Later my old guy friend goes to her starts choppin her. She looks very interested in her. The girls at my table arrive, but so it seems tehy are not interested in me, they talk to the other 2 guys and i feel like the third wheel. I start texting my friend because im bored i dont know what to do im sad im depressed at that moment. At one point I look towards the girl i talked to at buffet, cause she was sitting across at the other table (talking to my friend!:@) and she looks at me too, I raised my eyebrow saying kinda like "wth are u doing..." type thing... And yea never looked at her ever since, or talked to her. I was too mad to talk to her,.

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[My Thoughts]

If she liked me at first, what a bitch to leave me for the other guy. He looks so much better than me and is taller ten me. But hes a jerk.

Why didnt any girls approach me? I was wide open for approach and it has to mean that i am ugly. What do I need to do ? pierce my ears? man Im pissed at that.

Im pissed that my friends were not friends...

The thing that makes me more pissed is that my older brother came to the party, hes into pua too but he started after me... and he and his friend number closed the girl whos my age and at my table. He was like "yea im ____bother" shes like "whos ___" and then it was soo dry cause i was right beside her.


You know what they say... nice guys finish last.

Please tell me what u think on this. I am really hoping for some insight , help, advice or even just what u think. ANYTHING!

BTW I am 17. I have looked into David Deangle Venusiasion arts. I watched Davids seminars 2 years ago. Thats how early I started this shit and I still havent gotten a number close or a date. wtf. I am doing something wrong.

Why are you expecting girls to approach you?

I am in no ways great at getting chicks, But one thing im going to tell you is that No chick is going to go and sit next to a guy looking grumpy and sitting on hes own, Especially when there are Alpha males around.
If you cant slot in with your mates/wankers who were your mates, Move on and open somewere else, Be proactive. Its like poker and thats somthing I am good at. You cant change the hand you get delt, you have to know wether to check, bet or fold in any situation. Yes there is a small amount of luck involved but its mainly up to skill!

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Thrill of the chase!

Forget the nice guy crap, they do finish last.
Dont go trying to be a bad boy ether, cus she will find out your not and get bored.
You gota decide what you wanna be, an AFC nice guy, A PUA or a Wanna be bad boy.
Seriously, I was the nice guy, all i ever got were crazy bitches(not good crazy good ether)
anyway, hope i have helped a little

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Thrill of the chase!

First of all I know exactly how you feel...

Now buckle up and read...

I think it would be beneficial to go back and read back through the David D. stuff and take a closer look at the fine inner workings of this art form. Additionally I highly suggest reading "The Game" and the Mystery Method Venusian Arts Handbook. When I was seventeen, first of all, i had no idea about any of this stuff, so you are ahead of the curve my friend. But what you must realize, is this game isn't really about what you say at all. It is WAYYYYY more dependent on what you convey, and how you convey it. Body language, non verbals, inner game. Let's take a look at your story, and we'll break it down a bit.

Pick up is all about your frame, and even though you were able to hold the girls attention for a while and get them to laugh, you were preoccupied with the forlornment of your friends. Girls can easily pick up on this. and it's an automatic turnoff. Additionally, saying that you were all alone here is ALWAYS a BIG no no. (Promise me you'll never say that again?). Were you smiling? were you talkative to everyone including guys? If not, thats displaying "beta" behavior. which is unattractive. So, when you were sitting at the table by yourself, waiting to be approached, you'd done nothing with your social proof to gain enough interest. You really were NOT approachable at all. the girls could obviously pick up on your negative energy. You should never seem needy, or upset with anything, and never telegraph interest until she cracks first. The problem is, you were letting the girls hold all the cards. here are some points sort of like a cliffnote, but i highly reccomend looking deeper into the rules and the workings of the game. I think you would benfit greatly from the Mystery Method.

-Girls are attracted to Alpha Males, and what that means, is, you need to be the leader of MEN, and the women will follow.

-That delves into social proof. Social proof is WAY more powerful than the most attractive men. you should NEVER be by yourself at a party. always with as many people as you can.. always be the LIFE OF THE PARTY. that way the girls know you are preselected.

-On the same note, consider... An average looking guy walking into a bar with two beautiful women at his side as he enters will do much better, than a VERY attractive guy walking into the same bar by himself. Girls want what they think they can't have.

-Never be boring.. Be someone girls want to be around. if you're depressed and bringing the girls down they will always immediately push away from you. If you are in the market for meeting girls. Every time you go out, leave your baggage at the door, and go BE a pick up artist. If you're not super outgoing, you have to fake it.

-Brainstorm beforehand to think of interesting stories to tell girls that show them (subliminally of course) how badass you are. Once again, never telegraph any interest sexually. The hotter they are, the more you need to "neg" them and act as if you're not impressed with their looks.
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Nice guys don't finish last... It's just... In general, nice guys are boring. and boring isn't attractive. thats the worst mistake you can make in pick up.

Most of that stuff, will take a while to internalize, but take a look at some inner game and frame stuff. remember YOU are the prize that they are working for.

Couple of things I noticed from your description:

If you're on the outs with this circle of friends, time to get some new friends. A good circle of buds will look out for you and make sure you don't get left out in the cold even if you're acting like a dick. Unless there are one or two guys worth turning it around for, don't hang with these dudes anymore - they sound like a bunch of idiots.

By playing ignorant about the culture of Indian food you DLV'd yourself to that HB as a way to get an opener. Remember, the girl always thinks she's higher value because she's the girl, right? Don't further ding yourself with an open just because you can't come up with anything more interesting to say. There are a million openers that are neutral or DHV. Be creative.

When the HB said "aww, so cute" to you, she was giving you a putdown, not giving you an IOI. And you didn't have a cocky-playful comeback to equalize the value. Now you have two strikes. She was testing you to see if you would play with her, and you just rolled over and took it. You didn't protest or give her anything to play with, so like the cat who has the fuzzy toy dropped in front of her, she sniffed and walked away.

Then you DLV'd yourself again by saying that you were all alone instead of playing the leader of men routine. You ostracized yourself by letting everyone in the set know that you are a loner. Loners never get laid.

No wonder you wound up sitting by yourself. No offense, but if I was that HB I'd have left you for that other guy too.

I guess your right I shouldn't have showed so much DLV. I cant believe I forgot all this shit. I wanted to just go in naturally with my natural instinct or what ever.

Anyways, So I need to review my shit lesson learned. Right Now I dont have much time because of school, maybe on weekends. My brother and his friend were at the party aswell and they number closed girls my age. They told me girls my age are easier because they dont get approached often.

The thing is, how do my other friends my age close on girls when I am the one who knows about this pua stuff. I used to be the one at these dances that meets new people and my guy friends wud just stay with the group (maybe thats how i got kicked out of the circle lmao). But now they go and meet girls like how i used to and they do really good. I know somwhat about pua techniques and they still get more girls.... my only conclusion is because they look good. Girls dont care my age about how cool they are, they look hot thats all that matters. Is this true?

Also I was thinking of giving up on these methods and canned game and getting more into natural game. Everyone is saying that thats the best thing right now.
What do u guys think?

Exactly how old are you? What happened that your "old friends" are no longer your friends? Something had to happen.

list the advantages and disadvantages of believing your ugly, then make a desicion on whether or not you want to change that belief. if you do deside to change that belief then the first step is to write a paragraph on why it makes no sence to tell yourself your ugly, then write a paragraph on what youd like to believe instead, try to make asome sence like okk i might be ugly but at least ivegot some dignaty, im not gonna sit around and wait more my problems to go away im gonna do something about this, make sure your paragraph on what you wanna believe instead has 3 characteristics, it must make logical sence,it must be positive, and it must be affirming. if this doesent work. ive got a dozen or so paragraphs you could write just incase, but i think youll be fine.

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we do what we do, its walmart, its voodoo, on you.

I like where your head is at, but you are going about this the wrong way.

First of all.. I can almost promise that looks had little to nothing to do with your friends success over your own.

I'm not one for canned material that much... but just because you are using natural game, doesn't mean you can abandon your PUA persona.

Never DLV, Always SEEM like you are the most popular person at the party, whether or not you are using canned material or not. from what your telling us, I wouldn't've wanted to hang around you at a party either.. Less an attractive girl who needs to be entertained. You seemed to be in a bad mood and not having fun.

so, whether you are actually having fun or not is a moot point, but if you always ACT like you are having fun, and follow everything that people are saying, you will notice a SUDDEN increase in your game. Its a mental thing for sure. drill it in now. because it will only get harder after high school.

Your friends also might've had more success also because, unlike you they were not acting like they were there to meet girls. and nothing was too serious to them. which is a DHV in itself. If they happen to get a number, thats great, but they didn't really care.. they weren't PUA's..

Pretend you're a HOT girl... Would you rather hang out with a bunch of guys who are just having fun, and hanging out. Nothings a big deal, and they are just really comfortable and laughing all the time.

OR.... Would you rather hang out with a guy who is by himself, in a bad mood, he's not talking to his friends, and it's really obvious he is also upset because girls aren't talking to them.

I have girls approach me, thats only because when ever I'm at a party, within the first minute of being thee, I've already opened 4 sets, and have conversed laughed, teased, and DHV'd... so The rest of the girls there WANT to meet me, because obviously I'm worth meeting.. (I'm not... But they don't know that hehe)


Why do they want to meet you? make sense?

There is no such thing as a ugly man only lazy one's give a man a nice haircut,whiter

teeth,better posture,fitness,and clothes that fit and he's well on his way to being

handsome.The game isn't just a bunch of lines and routines it's a lifestyle nobody said it would be easy.I mean it's not real hard work but it is work.

Also the whole situation with everybody telling you to go natural sorry but that's bull.Now don't get me wrong I strongly believe that as you begin to master the game you will become what the pua's call a unnatural natural it's the point when you no longer need canned material, u don't need the training wheel's but,U still follow the rule's of the game because they work.FAKE IT TI'L U MAKE IT.Now nobody's

telling you to just go robot and go line after line word for word but don't walk off the path before u finish it.I'm sorry but look where trying to go natural so soon got you.

And with the situation with the girl not approaching u.Girls rarely approach guy's only in some situation's when a guy has super model look's but that not the case with most of us and even so I know it may seem like it sometimes but look's are not everything especially with woman and yea it suck's that we have to do most of the work, boohoo get over it life ain't fair and it's not a big deal.You miss 100 percent of the shot's u don't take,don't let the opportunity pass u bye.And your so called

friend's cut em.I know your thinking you'll be alone without them but ask yourself this do u feel alone with them.

I know finding good friends is not something u can find around the corner but, try to use the game to befriend people.Positiveness work's the best.It won't be easy but it's not impossible and u can do it.Good luck man and thank's, you help me think of the next post i'm going to put up.

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