ok. my first post here. here goes. i'm just a natural at opening anyone anywhere. makes no difference. daytime, nighttime, malls, stores, bars, clubs...whatever...women mid-stretch in a gym. it's my thing.

and i can tell if i see the IOIs but then i get chicken shit cold feet and bail. my friends say i'm the "see you when i see you guy". sucks!!! and i'm talking HB8 and up. but just can't bring myself to get the number or push farther.

so pissed at myself. i just need to get over this small bump.

any advice on how to get past this??? i'm missing out on all the hard work i'm putting in.

you need to make it sound like tis no big deal..... girls at malls .." hey next i go shopping an need advice ill give you a call? " ... its not that forward, and chances are itll work ( note self, i should use that one too, just thoguht of it)... girls at the gym..... " we can elp eachother work out, send me a text next your at the gym" ..... its only a big deal if u make it one, that should keep your feet warmer

very good advice. that's the approach i use to open...apply it to the number close too. and i like those two lines esp the one at the mall.

Well, you seem to have the hardest part for most people down, the approach..

make sure you have your game plan set up after that... what I mean is, have a basic direction to roll. talk to her, and figure out a reason that you would need her number. yeah, like advice on clothes, or whatever. What i've recently noticed as I've been zoning in much deeper to my game, is that.. As you get better, and your inner game/frame gets better and more solid, it doesn't matter as much what the reason is.. YOU are the shit, and SHE gets to give you her number.. What an exciting day for her!.. Make sense?

love it!! man it feels good to be with people who get me!!!!

my friends are like how do you do this??? i'm like do what...haahaha. i think i'm going to enjoy this forum.