I meet the girl, get her laughing straight away. Loads of touching to build attraction and everythings going great. I don't use lines because I feel like I'm past that stage but I'm by no means a superstar pickup artist. She then suggests we go and dance which we do and her friend tags along. We dance for a bit, her friend tries to drag her away but she stays so I know it's on.

We dance for a bit and then I go to whisper something into her ear and she tries to kiss me. I back off stopping the kiss a few times to build sexual tension but then give in and kiss her. Everythings still going great, I take her to our original seat and now start really getting to know her and keep increasing the touching.

Then it starts to get a bit boring, she's not really contributing and then decides to go over and talk to her friends. I leave her and start talking to another girl next to me which obviously makes her jealous and then later on I mention for her to come over again. Everythings still going well but I feel like I've gone as far as I can go without anything else to keep things fresh and interesting.

In the end another one of her friends comes over she decides she has to go and find some other friend, I say bye and never see her again for the rest of the night. I have her number and stuff but I still feel like there's another stage I could push it to!

This has happened to me a number of times before, a recent one was a week ago when I was on holiday in Thailand. Everything went great, same sort of thing happended but in the end is got kind of boring and she wouldn't allow me into her apartment. I'm beginning to think that kissing is a bad idea and shouldn't be uses because it kind of releases the sexual tension and there's no where else to really go after the kiss apart from sex.

Any help?!

If this continually happens to you I think it's one of the following things you need to do.

1. You need to isolate and get her completely alone(or take her home) and take it sexual
2. If you can't do number 1, do what she did, get away, add a little "pull" to your "push".
3. Get the hell outta there, end the night and go home or do something else, in other words, quit while you're ahead.

I look forward to input from other more experienced guys here ad I give advice primarily to learn.

You need to examine very carefully the difference between what you have the *potential* to do, and what you *should* do.

You may have the potential to kiss a girl, but that doesn't mean you should. Maybe the wiser strategy would be to stay in comfort longer and initiate the kiss later. It sounds like you are thinking, "If I escalate as far as I can as fast as I can, it will work..." It may help to think in a longer-term game plan- to pace yourself.

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Brilliant advice and in the back of my mind I think I already know this but the AFC in me is thinking "get in there and do as much as possible as quickly as possible!" I'm out again tonight and I'll read up on some comfort stuff today and pace my game out later. I'll report back my results.