so check it out there's this really girl ive seen around these days and
ive been told by allot of guys who game girls like that that she's a hard nut to crack
and all the guy's that try her fail miserably and she's the type of girl who has more than a 1000 friends on facebook i already have her instant messaging address i got it from someone who knows her now the thing is how do i approach her or game her ? oww did i mention she doesn't seem to care about anything you throw at her
your help would be highly appreciated

Cool, so you're admiring from afar already... just talk to her already. If you haven't even had one conversation yet, go do it then come back and tell us how it went.

Look up some stuff about opening. If she's with a bunch of friends and you know one go talk to your friend then get them to open the set up for you (So how do you all know each other?).

i have seen her around a few times and some of my friends know her so i ask around and i found out who she is
and the thing that's keeping me down is cuz i know for a fact she's been hit on allot and has a record for turning people down just like that
so how should i approach this should i message her on facebook first or juist go in and open ?

Don't message on facebook, go in and open

Dude for all you know she could be the most boring girl in the world, or she could be your next big thing. You'll never know by standing on the sidelines. If she's been hit on a lot, then approach her in a way most guys don't use. Just go in and talk to her like she's any other girl, I trust you can progress from there. Good luck.

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Let me get this straight. You asked someone else for her instant messenging adress???

And you wanna approach her ONLINE????

And she has over 1000 FB friends???

What makes you think that doing what everybody else have tried and failed will work for you?

Be original! Man up! Dont get all nervous and stalking etc. Thats what the other guys did wrong. Where they have failed you will win because you know the pitfalls. You know what you shouldnt do! Go in! Talk to her in real life! Nobody is impossible to charm!

dear asker, you are doing precisely the wrong thing lol. like the others i say just go for it.

the reasons being

1.. she is just a human.
2.. if you get "rejected" who cares? she is the kinda person with 1000 facebook friends lol
3. if you succeed you get major social proof.

the most important thing to remember is.. all girls are just girls. she isn't particularly better looking that a lot of girls im sure. just attitude. and if you can get passed the bitch shield. well who knows what kinda jewel will be underneath. never a problem with going for something

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thanks for all the help guys ill keep you posted how it goes

haha so come on man! any headway?

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Though simply quoting Ezo and leaving it at that would be right, i feel i need to ad atleast a little, so hear it is.

She has seen it all and done it all by your own admission, if she has so many friends and no boy friend, there is a reason, out of 1000 FB friends, half of whom are male, there will be 50 good lookers, and she is not with them, so good looking isn't enough.

If you have had "pua's" use openers on her only to fail, either there of low skill (or insert social disability here). What you should do, is approach, talk to her, get her interested, makes her friends laugh, neg her a little, talk about something exciting your going to go to or do, talk about something els for a while, then upon leaving casually invite them all.

thats what i would do, win or lose. Good luck.

~JJ

Poor girl . . .

still no luck guys ive been partying all over the place and i still didn't bump into her