The Pick Up Artist is supposed to be the exception to the rule.

I used to game before Mystery came out with his TV show.

My concern now is that the GAME has been overexposed and exploited, and women will spot game being ran on them because it's so common.

I cannot speak from experience because I have not gamed in 2 years.

Can anyone comment on this? --- ON THE IDEA OF GAMING BEFORE AND AFTER MYSTERY CAME ON TV - how has it changed the game, your game, etc.

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tbh i cnt give a decent answer on this one being from the UK (as we are behind the US on tv) but i have never been called on it while gaming, which is a while now. Therefore on this side of the pond it hasnt caught on, and we are still under the radar.

I would assume that as long as you arent using canned material, then you are fine. I like to read up inner game and apply that to my natural game, then work from there. You cant be called out on that.

I think that the whole OPINION opener in ITSELF, would be a giveaway...

Is this not the case?

depends on where you are living
in the netherlands its quite unknown
but i agree with the other guys if you develop your own openers and little routines you should be fine

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hi hambal,

so you do not think the whole routine of having an opinion opener, negging, etc - that this is not obvious to girls (who are familiar with the game)?

Seeing that you are in LA I would say either change up Mystery's method or use parts of it or none of it at all. As other wise girls will probably catch on to what you are doing. Especially if you use can openers. But if you come up with your own method (which people should really do once they understand basic pick up), then girls are far less likely to call you out on your game.

Thankfully most of the women I go far aren't too bright. I'm kidding haha:)

This was a reason, why I've slowly started moving into natural game. I've never used any openers, routines from "The Game" because I just don't really care for them.

If you just use the basics of the Pick-up Arts you'll be fine. I've only seen one person get called out for using a so called "PUA line" and thats because he was using canned material that EVERYONE new to this game knows of.

Use your own (successfully tested) material and PUA basics and you should be fine.

I see you're in the OC - have you had a problem with this?

When you say come up with your method... do you mean use the format mystery suggests ie A1-A2-A3 and so on, but plug in your own original material? Or do you mean come up with an entirely new methodology?

Thanks,
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Hey LVB,

What is natural game? Also, what would you consider to be the "basics" of game?

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Herehttp://www.pick-up-artist-forum.com/natural-ga ... 114.htmlis a very well written thread on "Natural Game"

The basics (for me) are:

Approach Anxiety Removal
Inner Game
Body Language
Building/Maintaining Attraction/Comfort/Rapport
Dealing with AMOGs
Dealing with "Shit-tests" and "bitch-shields"
Building Social value in a venue( bars/clubs in particular)

For "PUA" basics just look in the following sections, especially in the sticky threads

Approaching and Opening
Mid-Game
Day 2

nobody uses that outdated mystery method crap anymore

Now I'm no expert on PU but I think this is the main problem with canned lines and memorised routines. If it gets popular, chances are a girl's gonna have it used before. Increase the odds with the hotter she is. As soon as she sniffs out a routine, you're fucked. That is why I'm working hard on natural game. LVitaeBreve's link is gold.

Problems with what exact? Using my own method? If so I never had problems with a girl calling me out on it. If you mean coming up with my own method, then that would be a no.
What I mean by coming up with your own method is exactly that, create your own method. It doesn't matter if you use parts from Mystery's method or create a totally different system. Its up to you for what you want to use in creating your own method. You can do what ever you want when it comes to making your own method. It is best to make a method that suits who you are as a person. As that is only give you a higher success rate.

Just act like the whole PUA deal is unknown to you

"YOU'RE A PUA"

"a what?"