Just number closed an HB9 that I’ve know for a few months with two kids. I want more than a one night stand but I don't want a serious relationship either. Seeing her once or twice a week would be cool. I definitely don't want to lead her on and I don't think every girl with kids is only looking for a new baby daddy either. How should I go about managing her expectations from the beginning?

Also, I would normally suggest a day to meet up that works best for me and stick to it pretty firmly. However, having two kids is something legitimate that she will have to work around. So how should I set up a day 2 and what should I say if she says she is busy with her kids?

From my experiences they are ALWAYS looking for a baby daddy. You absolutely positively have to be upfront with her from the beginning, BEFORE YOU SLEEP WITH HER. I would say something like "hey I think you're a cool chick but I have to tell you upfront that I'm not looking for anything serious and the only reason I'm telling you this is because I respect you and I don't want their to be any false expectations." That might not be the PUA way of going about it but I have used this a number of times and it usually works. Also, it makes me feel better knowing I still have some morals and values. I don't claim to be a PUA just a guy with pretty good game looking to improve but I have used this in my experiences and it works better than fucking the girl and her being really attached and basically breaking her heart when you tell her you're not trying to be serious, trust me I've done both.

That makes sense but approximately when on the day 2 should I say this without ruining rapport? We'll probably be going out for drinks. Thanks.

p.s. also, I just edited/added to my original post

WHile it's possible she is looking for commitment.

2 Kids? How much fun does she get to have? How many men does she get to just have fun with?

Contrary to popular belief she may just want someone who can give her something which other guys won't, sex and fun.

Most guys go:
"OH SHIT KIDS COMMITMENT RUNN!!!" And leave the poor mum feeling shit becuase she just can't get laid anymore due to everyone making assumptions which are utterly basis.

And that is key, being a single mum makes it very hard to go out, it scares away alot of men and thus making it incredibly hard to just have some sex!

But It all depends on the woman, if she is the type that is relationship heavy then maybe she isn't for you. But alot of single mums out their just want to have what every other girl wants and what you want... FUN!

The fact that she had some kids doesn't remove her libido or adventurous side.

Manage expectations like you would any other girl and relax

There is no HB9 with a kid let alone two kids. Pushing basketballs out of your "nanny-nanny nu-nu" takes you WAY DOWN the hb ladder. Stay away from anything that has kids. Trust me. Just run. Nothing but problems. I don't care what culture or place we are talking about. Just run. Don't look back. As the Ingush like to say, "Stay Pure or Go Home".

My thought exactly! Poor mums

So how firm should I be when suggesting a day to meet up? How should I go about this? I mean the poor mum will need to find a babysitter so I should be a little more leniant than normal, right?

Yeah sure, it's fine to be leniant I mean if she is genuinly into you then she will be making an honest effort to meet you.


Suggest a day, give some notice like a couple of days and if she can't make it, check with her what day is best for her.