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Posts: 98 | Well a little about my self first. I am 17 right now and I am an AFC. Maybe even below average because I feel I dont look as good as average guys. I started learning pickup at age 16 after I broke up with my first and only 'real' girlfriend. I say real because a few months after we broke up, I kinda dated another girl who i didnt like at all. I thought maybe I could make my ex jelious but not only that maybe I could get over my ex and fall for this girl. I gave her a chance and it was fun talkin to her on the phone. I never actually went on a date with this girl but i knew she liked me. We broke up a week or 2 later lol. Maybe I could have gotten my ex back but i messed up in that too.. maybe. I showed ppl on this forum via chat what my ex looked like, and they said she was atleast an 8. I can agree her pics she looks like an 8 but in person the girl looks not as good, i dont know if she doesnt try or if she doesnt care but she was laid back and if me and her talked good I would try n get her back agian. 2 years since break up and no real relationship!.
So yea after the breakup, my friend whos older than me (maybe 25 years old) claims hes good at picking up girls and he acts alpha male all the time, he sends me a pdf called 'Venusiasian Arts (sorry for spelling)' I had that book for a year and never read it...I started to read it and it was really somethin. I never actually finished it and I dont think I even made it half way , I dont really like reading. I took my own steps and searched the net and came upon David Deangelo. I got his video seminars on double your dating and watched the whole thing. I transformed my self into a cocky/funny character and in that cause, lost most of my friends. I lost almost all my girl friends and now i have no friend circle. I dont blame DD but I think I portrayed a more cocky character instead of funny. Now during that year i did not succeed in getting any numbers, dates or girlfriends. I didnt approach much, i think I approached 1 girl that year and it was on halloween i was alone with my best friend because i didnt have a friend circle but i wasn't too dedicated. I was on side walk and she and her friend comming towards us. When we came to a close distance, i said " hey can you help us... were kinda lost..." Then we just went to the closest bridge... some girl calls me ( old friend ) and tells me i cant stay over at her house ( i wanted to go across the city to go trick or treatying with them... i was 16 so i guess i am a kid and was a kid lmao but yea i go to parties now instead) So then i put the girl on speaker cause i was tired of holding it to my head and i couldnt talk to the new girls, i muted the girl so she cudnt hear us while she was appologizing and i dunno maybe i showed dhv. Later the girls left us saying they need to go home and then never saw them agian . that was my first approach.
Ok last year 2009 was the year when i almost got my first pickup. I was still 16 and I went to a dance. Beautiful girl dancing with a group of other girls... me and my bestfriend went to the group it was hard but he helped as he said if we go there, i can drink a beer and i wanted to drink a beer lol. So we went and then just danced, then a dude came to the group who knew everyone and then he introduced me and my friend and he got us connected to the group. He was a good guy seriously . The girl then i sat down beside her when the music stopped and i was talkin to her, she was touching me joking like if i made her laugh she would push my hand type thing. And it seemd like good, i was being cockey funny because she was lauhging. the thing is she looked our age but the truthe was she wasn't. she was going to second year uni and I was going to grade 12... and her friends kept asking us how old we were, maybe we looked young i suppose... i know my friend looks really young cause hes short and i dont think hes matured enough (were young still). So ye near the end of the dance i came to the girl and asked her to come dance, she said fine and her friends said they were tired so they said just go . It was me nad her dancing and it felt even better . It was not hand ot hand dancing tho and i felt we needed more connection. I asked her if she wanted to grind and she said no lol . I asked why she said she doesnt do that anymore.Then she had to go so I had to get her number I walked up to her tried using dd's technique by asking the email first on paper. I said can I have ur email she said sure...but then no one had a pencil or paper. So then im like ok fine jus give me ur number.. and she said uhh umm as friends? and I said uh yea sure.. then she was looking through her phone and im like wat are u doing and she said i forgot my number this is a new phone. ( I think she was looking to give me somone elses number or that rejection hotline number). Then she looked at me and said ok but i want ur email.. cause she obv didnt want to give out her number to me. I said ok give me ur number il text my email. And then she gave it. 10 seconds later some guy comes up to us. It was her ex and hes obv aroudn her age and taller than me lol. He looked mad and asked if she just gave me her number , i said yea why... and he said we just broke up.. and then i think she got mad and looked at me and then looked back at him ... i backed up and then she ran out the door or walked fast out the door.
I didnt save the number but that cool dude who introduced me to the group was givin me props and all and said i shuda smashed that guy.
She knew i was younger so do girls date younger guys... my game wasnt that good so dam  .
Anyways thats my pua story lol...after this i never got lcose or never did any sarging.
So I pretty much forgot all the techniques or rules or tips on dating. I know the basics like keep ur back straight, use openerrs ( iv never used one b4), no hands in pockets. But seriously I dont think i want to be a pickup artist anymore. I just want to have a girlfriend that I think is atleast an 8 or atleast hotter than my ex... I cant go lower u know? My older friend who thought me and showed me the books said he was going to teach me how to get girls, because he claims he is pro... or atleast really good. when I ask him to show me first is skills, he says u doubt me too much. Iv never seen him pickup a girl b4. But this guy told me that I shud just date even ugly girls to
1. get experience
and
2. hot girls will look at me and be like whats he doing with that ugly girl.
is he right?
He said i shudnt use techniques and all and that he said he can teach me natural game.. natural seduction.
He sent me a book caled secrets of seduction by Robert Green i think.
it was a wierd book it has some rules and stories so i dont know if it teaches u anything. I never read it.
Please tel me your thoughts, feel free to right anything you want about this.
Should I just go with my instict like natural game or should I read a book or watch video seminars.
I prefer seminars then books so which one do you reccomend.
I was watching Man transformation by David Deangelo and I felt it had nothing to do with getting girls but just transforming ur self as a man and as a person. Then I hated him cause iwasted almost my whole summer watching that every nite and i learned stuff but i dont use it anymore.
Shud I just drop the whole thing on pua because Im young.. maybe these pua material doesnt work on young guys like me in school. I never try to pickup in school I only try when I go out to dances.
Should I read some books? I look forward for more natural game but I dont think I have good looks for girls to fall naturaly in love with me. For the girlfriend I had, it was more online dating cause i tlaked to her on msn and then she liked me over msn and didnt even remember what i looked like other than webcam. Then i asked her out on the phone and it worked ...but to get her it was super long and we were friends first...really good friends[/code]
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