Every few months, I go up to montreal. I have a few girls there, but one of them is actually two combined into one. They're two best friends and are fucking un-splittable.

Day one: Me and my wing pick them up, they come to our place. After a while, its obvious that both are into me, so i leave and let my buddy run some game to balance it out. eventually I isolate the one with a boyfriend, and we make out in the washroom. Shortly after, her friend interrupts and they leave.

Day two: I'd been in contact with the one with a boyfriend, we meet up again. but of course, she brings the best friend PLUS another friend. My wing isn't with me on the trip, so I recruit a my local buddy. The third girl was a monster and no-one else wanted to wing us, so it was 2 guys 3 girls.

We go through a game plan to make to most out of the situation as we can. Me and my girl are openly showing public signs of affection, touchy and grabby. He leads the group in terms of conversational threads, he decided the drinking game and everyone would have to checkup on the rules with him every few minutes. It worked since the bestfriend was into him. Great, now if only the fattie wasnt there we would be set.

eventually fattie leaves the room and and the other two pounce on eachother, my girl gets on top of me and we move to another room.
but of course, it didnt last long and we get interrupted.

they leave shortly after

I'm going back to montreal within the month, what are my options? I know the easiest solution is to meet up with her alone, but those to live in the suburbs as neighbors and they do everything together.

Any tips on how to isolate for a longer time? both the guys i spoke of are quite literate in the art of pickup, but as you can tell, they still couldnt keep the girl distracted long enough

third option is a threesome. what i didnt mention is that the two girls shortly made out twice, and they both pecked me on the lips at the same time. I think the second girl keeps interrupting because a)girl 1 has a boyfriend, but i think thats an excuse because, more importantly b) she'd been attracted to me since the beginning.

so attraction + bi-curiosity = ?threesome?

how would i go about pulling this off? what are some good places to go? things to do prior to this? I am well aware of neil strauss's "dual induction massage" http://mpua.info/threesomes.html but there are some things necessary to be done before

any help with my three options would be greatly appreciated

Meet them both and take no one with you, at anyone's place as long as it has a large enough bed (assuming that's where you start more intimate foreplay and sex). I never actually had a threesome so I'm kinda clueless but I'm guessing just kinda tease both of them through touching, and if you escalate subreptiously enough soon you'll be fingering both without a word of complaint. But what I can tell you for sure (as it is obvious) is if you're going for the threesome don't bring the wingman to tag-along.

Good luck!

thanks for the feedback, I'd rather meet somewhere else, moving to the sex location wont be a challenge. They're already familiar with the apartment. The two times we met was exactly the same and both times had the exact same result. we only hung out in that one location, I think some bouncing will help my situation.

Another thing, my buddy was doing good with the other girl, its his apartment, i dont think he'll be thrilled about me taking both chicks, especially since not only am i crashing at his place, but i'd need an OK from him to use a bed. It's a little selfish, especially since he has a chance. But then again, how often does a threesome come along?

I was only saying to meet at your place because it's highly unlikely for them the take along one of their sea beast friends along if you meet up directly there, but then again, you're right, if you only have one confort location you might as well take them to some other places. About your friend, well, find out how much he actually wants the girl or not. Not worth it to get on santas naughty list just because of a chick anyway.

Am I the only one who will laugh hard if this dude gets knocked out by the girls boyfriend?

That girl is pathetic. But so are you. Are there not enough single girls? Or do you just grasp at the very few straws you get the desperate chance to.

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If your not going to give advice, don't post anything.

Jealousy is an emotion for the weak. If you can't suppress the overwhelming urge to have an envious public outpour (AKA menstruation), then a good place to relieve this is a virtual environment called 'yahoo answers'. There are hundreds of tweens with boy troubles that would turn down johnas brothers' tickets to hear more of your outstanding boyfriend advice.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:
-FUCK MONOGAMY-

When I first met this girl, she said that she was on shaky terms with her boyfriend, and never mentioned him again, for all I know she's single now. But you know what? I don't give a flying fuck either way. Both these girls are beautiful, and taking a moral stand against 'assisting boyfriend adultry' would be the biggest pussy AFC move of all time. Most women of class I've met seem to have other men it their lives. Do I mind? No. Because I also have women in my life. That would be nothing short of hypocrisy.

The boyfriend is not the issue I'm having.
But you know what, you have helped me realize that, like I said, NOT GOING FOR IT "would be the biggest pussy AFC move of all time" A threesome Is high up on my list of things to do before I turn 20. I have to go for it, I would be no better than AFCthomas if I pussy out.

Thanks bro, I know your intention was nowhere near the realm of practical advice, but you, my friend, work in mysterious ways. Now go do the same for some yahoo answers tweens!

God's speed!

I'll look over your reply again to see if there's some more advice hidden between the lines in the form of an enigma. In the mean time, if someone else would like to give some intentional advice on, say, good things to do pre-menage-a-trois, I'd be glad to hear it. [/i]

Use Style's massage routine.

Agree'd

'Nuff Said. lol.

Another alternative is figuring out your own (which I recommend as routines get overused as time goes on) or getting them both in a sexually charged situation and just roll into it.

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Yes, I plan on using that. like I said: The massage would work well in the sex location, however i plan on going somewhere/ doing something before the sex escalation. Any ideas? Something that would work well in escalating the both of them...

That's good, any examples?

We played frisbee last time. physical, but no real competitive situations.. plus they could hardly throw it. It was an opportunity for 'teaching' and cheap kino, but still kinda lame.

Any other ideas?

Well if she's single now then cheers. I just think it's pathetic on both ends when people lie / purposely disregard others for their own selfish gain. It is the definition of pathetic, and calling attention to that is not jealousy. I am happy with a girl I'm with, and if you think I'd have any reason to be jealous of looks, then by all means turn your attention to my picture that you can find in my sig. I think you'll agree jealousy isn't the issue here my friend.

Ironically, I think it's more AFC than anything when you disregard someone elses feelings. That shows how frustrated one really is, because if you were truly a pickup artist, could you not find another dime a dozen sexy girl who's single? I see 100 a day and I live in a small area.

But if she's single then hell, I'm all for wild fun, crazy nights, great mornings and everything else. My only issue is with such arrogance that you'd disregard a fellow person so carelessly. That's where sociopathy is born. I know you owe nothing to that girls boyfriend, and it's mostly HER fault for being willing to do it to him, but don't you have the empathy to understand how it would feel to be in his place? Perhaps you are stuck in the mentality of someone who never went through the "game stage" (george herbert mead. google it). Or perhaps someone stuck in the pre-conventional stage (Kohlberg). And trust me, those two places are much worse places to be stuck in than to be labled a silly pickup artist term "AFC".

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The attitude of ThomasX is in the same out-dated line of thought that misogynists have held for Centuries; that women are property and any sexual activity with a women in a relationship is the equivalent of theft of property. Women are individuals, not commodities or objects to be owned, and should be treated as such. If a woman wants to have sex with another guy, then that is her decision and she has a right to that.

If she sticks within the confines of her old boyfriend any longer, she is only prolonging her own misery and postponing the potential misery of her boyfriend.

So go ahead with these two girls, and good luck!

Amen to that!


Someone PM me with some very insightful advice. I think I have all I need, thanks to everyone who posted.

Feel free to post anything else though - I'll still appreciate it.