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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:50 pm 
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Last night I field tested an opener that I had read before. Here's how it works. Wear some accessory (whatever you like). Approach the set and ask this.

"Hey guys real quick I gotta get back to my friends. But as I was coming in I was hit on by some gay dude saying that he liked this (point to your accessory) and was hitting on me about it. Does this make me look gay?"

Whenever I've used this I have gotten an either yes or no. That aside, now I'm looking for ideas to stack with this.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:43 pm 
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Well,you could try these..

Yes:

"Yes? Damn,if guys start hitting on me,a lot of girls will be jealous...oh,and by the way
[open-ended neg question about her accessory]"

Or:

"Damn! Will you help me hide from the gay guys? [joke about her protecting you]"


No:

"I'm not really sure,because I heard that gay guys have better fashion sense than girls...[tease her about her fashion sense]


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I used to use a variant of this all the time, and I had a funny story about a gay guy hitting on me in the bathroom to transition straight into after I got their opinions. I got a lot of laughs as the whole thing was pretty outrageous, but I got nowhere afterwards.

Here's the thing I don't like about it. You're basically asking a group of people you don't know to give you fashion advice and are seemingly so insecure about being perceived as homosexual that you want to know whether some item gives off that vibe. To me that's a DLV. An alpha guy will not care if a gay guy hits on him. He will not start to question what he's wearing or if he's doing anything "wrong" to give off a gay vibe. And he certainly doesn't need the opinions of a group of strangers about any of this.

And that's the real problem with opinion openers in general. Why are you going up to someone you've never met asking them for an opinion about something to do with yourself? If you're high value, you should be giving value to others from a higher position, not taking value by seeming insecure and wanting people's advice or opinions on things.

If you have enough confidence, just go direct. If you don't then go under the radar with functional or situational openers. No girl is gonna hate you or think you're creepy for asking where the bar is.


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What do you mean by "direct"?

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An example of a direct opener is "There's something about you...I'd be kicking myself all night if I didn't come over and say hi."

Direct dancefloor game is basically locking eye contact and going straight up to a girl and just start dancing with her w/o even saying anything. You need super alpha body language and I'm sure it would greatly help to have an IOI before you go over there.


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An example of a direct opener is "There's something about you...I'd be kicking myself all night if I didn't come over and say hi."

Direct dancefloor game is basically locking eye contact and going straight up to a girl and just start dancing with her w/o even saying anything. You need super alpha body language and I'm sure it would greatly help to have an IOI before you go over there.
I heard about the direct style these few finnish PUAs are useing when they do dance game. Basically it goes like this:
1) you enter the dance floor and start walking through it
2) When you see a target you gently push her with your hip
3) When she turns around to see who it was, you grab her hand and kiss her

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An example of a direct opener is "There's something about you...I'd be kicking myself all night if I didn't come over and say hi."

Direct dancefloor game is basically locking eye contact and going straight up to a girl and just start dancing with her w/o even saying anything. You need super alpha body language and I'm sure it would greatly help to have an IOI before you go over there.
I heard about the direct style these few finnish PUAs are useing when the do dance game. Basically it goes like this:
1) you enter the dance floor and start walking through it
2) When you see a target you gently push her with your hip
3) When she turns around to see who it was, you grab her hand and kiss her

[ Johnny B ]
Do you mean kiss her hand? Or like on the cheek, because this seems bold and interesting


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An example of a direct opener is "There's something about you...I'd be kicking myself all night if I didn't come over and say hi."

Direct dancefloor game is basically locking eye contact and going straight up to a girl and just start dancing with her w/o even saying anything. You need super alpha body language and I'm sure it would greatly help to have an IOI before you go over there.
I heard about the direct style these few finnish PUAs are useing when the do dance game. Basically it goes like this:
1) you enter the dance floor and start walking through it
2) When you see a target you gently push her with your hip
3) When she turns around to see who it was, you grab her hand and kiss her

[ Johnny B ]
Do you mean kiss her hand? Or like on the cheek, because this seems bold and interesting
Kiss her on the lips

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Well, i was doing a bit of searching on the net about this same subject and found this:
http://snipurl.com/srj0i

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