This girl Victoria...

Her first impression of her of me is like this.

Me: Hey Victoria.

Her: Wut?

Me: Why does your guitar look so pretty?

Her: I know right?! Blah blah blah... Thanks alot!




That's how I broke the ice with her during biology class. (Yeah, I'm taking biology even though I'm a senior in high school. Long story.)

After that, we had some safe conversations. She told me about her past BFs and everything, that guy that annoys her, her ex BF's sister, stuff like that...

WHat do you guys think? Is there still hope? Should I be negging until she starts giving out some IOIs or do I just shift to the comfort phase?

Thanks a ton.

P.S. = I've known her for about 2 weeks. This girl is a social monster. She managed to get to know 30% of the people in our biology class and actually are very capable of chatting with them almost any time. I have to keep up...

Oh, and another thing, what are the ideal stuff to talk about while on the phone with her? I have her number. (She never asked for mine... Sigh)

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It seems that theres enough space for negs here.
Call her, break the ice with a assesment from school, that you suddenly don't get anymore... and that you need a private tutor session and if she's willing to help you out.

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you shouldnt sigh tha she never askd ur number pua's always get the girl to give their number to you

forget about negging...just tease her....and dont be so systematic about it...its never too early OR late to tease..this should be your base vibe with her at all times.

You should have stopped her when she was talking to you about BFs and everything else. It looks to me like things kind of jumped straight into comfort the way you described it and you didn't build any attraction to even get IOIs. I would say take two steps back and give a neg or 2 too disqualify yourself, flirt, do a little kino, then get her to qualify herself. Starting from comfort can either lead to LJBF or LMR, if you can make it to seducing her.

Do you think it'll ATLEAST lead to making out?

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There's only one way under high heaven to make anybody do anything... Yes, just one way. That is, by making the other person wanna do it!

Do you think it'll atleast lead me to making out with her?

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There's only one way under high heaven to make anybody do anything... Yes, just one way. That is, by making the other person wanna do it!

Guys, please, keep 'em coming!

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There's only one way under high heaven to make anybody do anything... Yes, just one way. That is, by making the other person wanna do it!

I honestly don't know where to start with this, righty this is not the best advice actually it is probably superficial drivel but it will get results and I am sure that an entire shakeup of your beliefs and outlook is not what you need.

On to the matter at hand, don't neg there is no point, the whole value thing is bullshit and over analytical in my opinion. Next port of call stop reading books and things on the subject of pick up. Final port of call, where you gaming her when you met her? It doesn't sound like it to me hell far out an idea as it may be a girl might like you for you not for how well you are at regurgitating material.

Bleurgh I am tired and bitter but yar just keep chatting with her and tell her you think she is cute, things will go the way they are supposed to. No one is perfect and no one should try to be.

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I actually love this advice. Thanks man.

I'm sure as hell that it's not gonna help me get in her pants but fuck it. Someone told me it's not too late to TEASE her. Maybe that'll work...

Do you think doing things normally would work well?

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There's only one way under high heaven to make anybody do anything... Yes, just one way. That is, by making the other person wanna do it!

yes, teasing is good.

Basically it sounds like you're building rapport. What you need to do is break that rapport by negging a bit next time you see her. Nothing too harsh, you don't want to destroy all the rapport. Hopefully she will start trying to build that rapport back up again, if you then IOI her when she's doing that (e.g. through kino escalation) then she will be reinforced into that behaviour. She will hopefully then get invested in you emotionally and start to feel attracted to you.

You also want to stand out from the rest of the choads she's talking to in class by being different and interesting and funny. Try to invite her to friends' parties and/or bars etc. so that you have more opportunity to kino escalate, isolate and build comfort. Finally, keep that phone conversation to a minimum. The phone is for arranging a place to meet, not for spending 30 mins talking about what hair products you prefer. You don't want to seem too available and you certainly don't want to get LJBF'd.

as i said before, this should be your base vibe with her at all times.

the minute you stop teasing, thats when the tension and 'fun' stops. and dont forget to convey your sexuality while teasing.

you can even tease while building comfort. comfort building does not have to be a serious and 'deep' interaction. it basically means the conversation topics lean more towards personal topics rather than random bullshit. unless she is telling you about her father that died a few years back....tease her constantly. this sounds obvious, but its sometimes easy to forget this when you get into deep conversation. sometimes i think 'shit we're going down the wrong road here...its getting to deep and friend-like'...and i immediately tease her...once again there is a sparkle in her eye and tension is revived. as soon as you feel the sexual tension dropping, switch modes immediately.
in the conversations you have had so far....did you tease her and make it fun? or was it boring old convo?