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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:28 pm 
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Ok so a brief background first.... I am usually a pretty outgoing person, however just like most of the guys out there I definately suffer from some pretty intense AA. Most of the time at social situations I am very shy and tend to keep to myself. I am working on this, by talking to anybody I see.

Anyways, I am decent at opening, and I have that concept down. Also I have read the game a few years back, but that only seemed to make me over-complicate the situation... and everytime I approach women I tend to over think what I should be doing.... but besides the fact, last night I was fairly good at opening, and was able to talk to anybody. Lol, a decent accomplishment for myself.

However, after I got done opening a few sets, I would slowly run out of things to say or mid-game routines. I was wondering if anybody on here has any suggestions of where to go after opening. I know the general principals of the game, so no need to explain that route, but I am intersted in how everybody else approaches mid game. More specifically, what do you guys do after opening? Seems to be, as if I am stuck in this stage, and I want to blow past it. Any help would be greatly appreciated


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:03 pm 
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Your mid game can really be anything bro. I usually try going for situational stuff. Maybe a planned DHV or two.

I think of midgame as demonstrating yourself and how you are as a person. one of my favorites to use is when they ask you something like where are you from and stuff just look at them and say; now I know your a much more intelectual person than that, ask me something you really care about. works pretty well but you gotta give it the tone like, I know what I'm doing here; ya dig? As far as it goes just talk to them like they are a buddy. tell them a quick anicdote then ask them to reply. Or ask them an opened ended question like; what do yuou hold in high value as of now in your life? mid game you want them to talk, a lot. So you can let them get comfortable. Also kino escalation is important here. find dicarlos kino escalation e-book. its a dam good help. I guess I dunno. thats my advice, good luck bro and keep it real, because they always, always can tell if your being too fake. and at that rate you'll never get any numbers :?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:44 pm 
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When I feel like the conversation is going a bit dead I usually try to throw in some games or role playing stuff to add some excitement. Like playing fuck marry kill, style's 3 lies routine, just being random and playing patty cake or something like that they used to play as kids.

Also remember that, whereas at the start of the interaction you'll probably be carrying 80% of the conversation, you want to try to fit in ways to ask her things about herself so that she's telling you more about herself. This gives you opportunities to throw a neg or two in, if necessary, but also to actually get to know her, and attempt to parallel some of her values.

I used to get stuck because I would launch into some DHV story and just rattle it off, usually getting some laughs here or there, but forgetting to really get her engaged in the story. It's really easy - at natural pauses in your story, just ask "have you ever been in that situation before / thought about that / seen that happen" etc. She may not venture anything much, and you can continue on with the story, or she might actually launch into a story of her own, in which case you have the "open loop" of your story to fall back on if conversation about her second story dries up. By chopping and changing conversation, and getting her input, you can leave multiple open loops, which leads to that feeling that you guys have so much to talk about, rather than worrying about what to say next.


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