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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:07 pm 
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this girl at work been bitching a lot at me recently and here's some parts of chats ive had with her:
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me: *sitting down*
girl: omg dont look at me like that
me: ;/
girl: u know yesterday he thought this girl was stalking him, he so wanted her too
me: ye ive gotta make sure i dont lose anything valuable :)
girl: u dont have anything valuable
me: ur such a piss take... ;/
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girl: "ur smile is so annoying i wanna slap u"
me: "go on then" :)
girl: "no" (she didnt)
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girl: "u know about word association rite? well guess wot i think about u"
me: "i dont wanna say it aloud" :)
girl: "not quite"
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there were some other exchanges where i was jking wid her like:
me: "haha i thought u knew everthing" :P (shes a big head about knowing it all at work)
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me: "oh god u cant leave me alone, go away"
blabla
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she never had a angry or pissed off face when she was saying that shit. i no for sure she was smiling a few of the times also.

i asked for help for the stalker shit as i knew she was going to bring that up but no1 gave me any good advice... if any1 had a better come bk for that instead of the 1 i thought up please do share...

anyways my question is can a girl being bitchy mean shes interested in u?...


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thats not being bitchy, that's just being flirty while avoiding being what, in her mind, could be skanky.

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KristallNachte this may sound a lil retarded... but cud u go into more detail pls coz i thought that wud be classed as bitchy. saying some1 wished (in a bad way) a girl was stalking them, they have nothing valuable and their smile annoys u wud be a bad thing..?

also how shud i act next time she says something like that..?


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like you don't care lol

the words aren't what mattered here. in general bitchy never starts conversation. bitchy ends it.

you said she never said it in a spiteful way, and even smiled for a few of them. thats flirty.

I've had girls call me a bitch and stuff in ways that were flirty. its the context not the words.

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how shud i act like i dont care? coz i wud feel so dumb if i just sat there either with a stupid smile or ignore her and said nothing. also thz for the advice n quick replies.


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how shud i act like i dont care? coz i wud feel so dumb if i just sat there either with a stupid smile or ignore her and said nothing. also thz for the advice n quick replies.
say whatever comes to mind. be cocky

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girl "you're a bitch!"

you "well, that goes without saying"

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in general bitchy never starts conversation. bitchy ends it.
wow thats great KristallNachte. very true.

stealthhawk, you are facing a series of shit tests my friend....that together with cocky banter/flirting. give her a taste of her own medicine...do not show that you are EFFECTED by her remarks in any way....you can do this by smiling back at her and firing cocky remarks back.

eg. when she says something like 'i am SO not attracted to you!'...reply with...'Thank god!!!'


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She is obviously showing interest in you, but she lacks confidence to be cool about this, hence the bitchy/comedic flirty tactic that she's pulling. It's sort of a female version of David D's cocky-funny method, but its epic fail cuz it's the girl way. Here's the deal: DO NOT VALIDATE! Just calmly and coolly call her bluff! Throw in a neg on how she's socially inept and that her way of hitting on your reminds you of a 2nd grade crush. Then make some comment about how you totally fall for corny attempts like the one she's pulling. It should totally disarm her and leave you open to follow your game out how you want to. Give us an update on this


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I agree with the last two comments by 12ninja and Visionxxxxx, sounds like its her Bitch defence. Quite often when a girl feels insecure or wants to make herself feel in control, she will make small bitchy comments like that to make herself feel more in control. Then you ask yourself why is she insecure, does she have a big group of friends? Did she used to have braces? Little things like that are a big deal for girls. Its easyer to deal with her if you know where her insecuritys lie.

Im saying this because a Neg used in correctly, in any of these areas will go down like a lead balloon. Such as "You have something in your teeth" or "I think your just lonely and wished you had a stalker too". I would stick with the cockey funny stuff that 12ninja mentioned. Be carefull with the Negs, its all in the delivery i always smile and wink after a Neg and its becoming routine for me. Try to relax a little when your around her, i get the impression from the way you have written your post that you can be a little tense around her. Its easyer said than done but all of these things will help.

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when u guys say dont call her bluff and dont validate. u mean like dont seek for her approval (validation) n dont disagree with wot shes saying (bluff). maybe even exaggerate it in a cocky/funny way? n possibly neg her, right?

@Saint u saying i shud use something like "You have something in your teeth" / "I think your just lonely and wished you had a stalker too" or that i shudnt?

also thx every1 for advice & help!


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Sounds like 'she' is negging 'you' dude.

That's not bitchiness that's definately flirting. She's into you, all you need to do is break past that 'bitch defence' and get her talking seriously. She sounds very insecure.

Maybe say something like 'you know you don't need to be bitchy to make me like you, I bet somewhere deep down in there theres a little girl who just wants to be held and appreciated for who she is. I want to see more of "that" girl'

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Sorry mate i should have been more specific, my bad. I would figure out (if not work out) if she has any small insecuritys such as her teeth or any other part of her body, or life for that matter. These areas are NON Negging subjects. The girl you are describing sounds like the type who has underlying insecuritys and a Neg in that department can be a total wipeout.

For example using the ones i said before, say you said "You have something in your teeth" and she had a small insecurity about her teeth it wouldnt work as a Neg and instead would come across as an insult.

Its one area in all the posts ive read and books that isnt covered. I personaly live with women and have been involved in Pick up for 2 and a half years now. It is amasing how confident a girls can come across, however for some its just a barrier they are putting on to hide how insecure they are.

Look out for these sticking points and feed of material she gives you. Such as;

"ur smile is so annoying i wanna slap u" i would reply by turning to her mate (if there is one) and saying "Does she always do that.. You know steal the words right out your mouth" Followed by a cheeky smile and possibly a wink.

This works for two reasons. One because you are involving her friend in a "Secret joke" of sorts. (Everyones finished someones sentence at some point so her friend will relate to the joke.) Secondly her friend will most likely play along with the joke if you have said it in a fun and jokey way, thus increasing your social value and making you more attractive.

Its a safe bet to go with because you are using material the girl has already given you, rather than picking out a random Neg.

Hope this helps

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dude, could you seriously make your avatar smaller?

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Please would be nice, but yea ive been thinking that so im going with this one

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First of all you need to learn a lesson.
There are no such things as "Bitches." if a girl is treating you that way then you are just not giving her what she needs to feel validated in liking you.
Its all a HUGEEE Shit test.
Do not jump through her hoops. and straight up tell her.
"I don't take shit from you. Im Not in the shit business."
And if she is still around cool.
If you lose her then thats why we are all here to pick up women.
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