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 Post subject: Stuck where I'm at
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:23 pm 
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Whats up fellas,
Me and my buddy/ wing went sarging last night and had a great great night. But there are tons of things I noticed for me is I could get their attention from the opener for the most part (one targetl didn't pay much attention to me in this two set but I calibrated did get her into the convo with a neg) but after that and stacking usually two openers I couldn't seem to keep there attention.
For example
Opening a 3 set
me "hey guys I want your opinion on something, I can only stay for a second I gotta meet back up with my buddies but we were all debating on who lies more men or women?


them "men.... etc....blah blah


me "I only have a second *kneel down* but how about who lies better?"


them "women cause we re smarter about it and....... etc."


me "Valid points but you guys did sin first in the garden of eaden I'm just saying, I'm just messing with ya *playful little punch on the arm*" omg I can only stay for a min. *grab a chair to sit in at their table* but did you guys see the fight outside?"


them "what! there was a fight?"


me "ya it was crazy it was these two girls fighting over this guy named Glen, what a deal breaker name right, anyway tiny guy maybe 5'2" and this is a legit cat fight with the hair pulling eye gouging. Then a titty pops out but this wasnt a nice titty it was one of those saggy baggy boobies you know the ones from national geographic and I'm not in 7th grade no more thats just not gonna get it done what so ever."

They would usually laugh and what not

and this is where I'm stuck so I took it another 20% like everyone says to do

me to target "I like your hair color is it your natural hair?"

her "hahaha no"

me "O well it still looks pretty good."

me to group "Do you all believe in ESP?" this is when i notice two of the three girls loosing intrest and kept with the gambit hoping it would catch their attention

one of the girls (not my target) "no not really."

me to group mostly the girl not interested thats not my target "Let me show you guys something cool let me see your hands, good girl now think of a number between 1 and 4, k *small talk i cant remeber* k 3 (nope)

by this time i can tell they want me gone so i ejected and said pleasure meeting you all have a great night. How do I deal with them loosing interest like that and regain it? I just realized as I type this that I didn't do a FTC before the numbers gambit but thats all I got so far. I'd appreciate anything you guys got for me. thanks.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:37 am 
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why did you ftc like every 5 words?

and why did you just use openers and no routines?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:34 pm 
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i was stacking my two openers and then the esp was a dhv i was going for. i was also only used the ftc before the first opener and when i was locking in.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:07 am 
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you did like 2 FTCs in two lines.

and that ESP thing IS ANOTHER OPENER.

so that was just opener stacking. which of course won't get you anywhere.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:13 am 
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just thinking... why dont you actually say to them once u have there attention and fighting excuse yourself to meet up with ur friends earlier and during the night if u see them again. Act like you've known them your whole life and just break out conversation?


Just my 2 cents

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:09 am 
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o i see what your talking about the ftc i actually typed that wrong i didnt actually do the second ftc. and as for the esp i might have said it wrong i probably shouldve said it more like "let me show you something cool" but it is a dhv she give you her hands and then i like to throw them away and make hand motions while i say i want you to guess a number between 1 and 4 dont tell me and multi thread but i didnt do that bc i was to worried to loose them so i screwed that up but it is a dhv not an opener.
as for joker ya i could ve done that for sure at the time didnt think about it which was probably bc i was trying waaaay to hard and thinking faster then i could talk " which is one of my problems but ya ill definately try that next time.


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