So I've always been stuck on the isolation and kiss close "phase" (not that I keep track)

First question, How can I isolate without looking like a weirdo?
Second, If I go in for a K-close and she refuses or turns away, what do I do?

Isolating is a hard part of the game. I might suggest these two routines.
First routine is The Cube Psychology test. Tell her you'd like to do it, but you'd like to do it somewhere quieter so you can hear her answers better. Once there build kinos by doing a little "push-pull"; meaning neg, then slight compliment.
You do your cube test and then you should be in. Style also says a good way to kiss-close is to do what he calls the triangle. It's where you stare at one eye, then the other, then the lips, without saying anything. This creates a sexual moment, and assuming you played your cards right she will try to initiate.
Second routine is good too, also coined by Style. He calls it The Bet. This is a game you may have heard of where you ask the girl if she wants to make a bet, usually for a drink or something small. When she agrees you tell her you will ask her five questions but she must lie on each question, if she answers truthfully, she owes you a drink, if she successfullly lies each time, you owe her a drink.
Ask her three mundane questions,
1. Hair color,
2. Shirt brand,
3. Her best friend's name,
Now pause and look confused and say, "Wait, was that three questions or four?"
If she helps you out and says "Three," she owes you a drink. If she catches on and says "EIGHT!!" then you smile and laugh and say, "Ah you got me, have you played this game before?" They always say "Nope!" -- "Good, that was my fifth question, and I'll take a long island." I also like to add for insult, "Go ahead and get yourself something too, and put it on your tab."

Close it up with some laughing and chemistry building. I think it's a good idea to fluff a little bit here, and talk plain to her. After an exaggeratted silence breaks in, make eye contact and ask her "Would you like to kiss me?" If she says yes, move in slowely. If she says "No, Maybe, I don't know..." Reply with "I wasn't saying you can, it just looks like you have something on your mind." And now she's thinking about it. She might even blush.

Style also says a good way to phase shift is to smell her hair, or her shoulders, (which I've never tried because to me that just sounds creepy...) and make a comment about how she smells, usually something complimentary. Sometimes I've heard it's ok to lightly kiss the neck before you kiss the lips.

Try things out, see how they work.


Cheers,
JONAS

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I stopped reading Jonas's Post when he said Isolation is hard.

Isolation is easy. Talk to her and side step. She will follow you and end up with her back to her friends. Ta-Da! you have micro-isolation.
BT Spike, have fun with her, and say "SKO SKO SKO" (lets go) "Upstairs is WAY cooler then here" and grab her hand with 100% confidence and LEAD HER.

Makeouts are EASY too. You just need calibration. Here is a challenge that got me SUPER calibrated and taught me EXACTLY when I can go for a makeout.

Three Failed Makeout Challenge
For one night at a club, you will try as hard as you possibly can to get three FAILED makeouts. Talk to her, be fun, she laughs, and as soon as you think its time go for the makeout. If she turns the cheek, it does not count as a failed make out (because she is not ready to make out yet but still likes you). If she makes out with you, it does not count as a failed make out.
She has to smack you, get up and leave, push you away, or something like that.

YOU: Hey balh blah blah
Her: balh blah blah
YOU: Do you like surprises? **make out**

Claw the hell out of her. After that night, you will find out how easy it is to make out.

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I was being sympathetic.

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i posted a more detailed post but i guess it never went thru..

isolation=easy...sorry jonas i havent read ur post but ill read both posts after this.

isolation is all about noticing ur surroundings but dont forget to make her comfortable with u first. and another tip u might want to know (common sense) when u tell her to leave with u give her eye contact and dont say it too loud. This way someone dosent jumpp in and say "i wana go"

for example;

at a nightclub: tell her your bored and tell her to go dance with u. then take her hand and lead her into the center of the crowd so her friends cant see you two.
or if the club/bar has more than one room tell her ur tired of this room and to go check out the other room with u.

at the beach or pool: Tell her to jump in the water with you

Store or food court: tell her u dnt like the food there or if its a store tell her to come with u to another store real quick so she can give u a womens oppinion on some shit.

and so on...

Kiss close:
once u get ur IOI's and ur close to her give her a kiss on the cheek. sometimes they will think ur gna kiss her on the lips and even when she turns her lips towards u still kiss her on the cheek and tell her "were u trying to kiss me on the lips?? u think im that easy hahaha" if this is the case wait about a minute and go in for the kiss. thats a done deal.

if the kiss is only a kiss on the cheek do the classic:
ask her:
(with a smirk)would you like to kiss me?
if she says yea: kiss her
if she says maybe: say lets find out and then kiss her
if she says no: smile, say i didnt say u could...u just looked like u had something on ur mind. then teasingly turn away from her take three steps away and look back and say r u coming?

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when she says im a "dog" i know im in

This helps a lot guys, thanks. I'm a little iffy with the failed make out thing, I gotta see about that. And I didn't know when to implement the Cube so I appreciate the help.

Any other tips/ routines?

"Only those who go too far can find out how far they can go"

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... you just fucking blew my mind

Your welcome. Now go infield, try it, and post the report. Make sure you go to a big club on a busy night to do it.

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