Right,

im fairly new to this community but have been interested in PUA's ever since reading "the game" (i bet thats heard a lot a probably dispised by all)...

im 18, off to uni, quite confident, not particularly manly, more of the slieghtly camp charm offensive. this seems to have worked as my current number is 10 (cpuld have been more if i had gone below HB7 - i count a HB6.5 as a 7 if she is particularly sexually intersting and adventurous!)

Well, the girl i lost my virginity to a while back has recently become single and after contacting her the idea of meeting up again has been brought up. When i first met her she was by far one of the most attractive girls i had seen (tall, blond russian) at least an HB8, but i didnt approach as back then my confidence was pretty low (even now i dont really have a clue where to start with learning openers etc etc, but thats for another day). however we ended up meeting through a mutual friend and we slept together within that week. she left London a few months later and that was her excuse for not starting a relationship.

Almost 2years later and i am coming to realise that the way she made me feel like i was unique and special was infact something that used to reel me in and feel like she could just fuck me (in her mind as a FB, in mine as a potential girlfriend).

so as i said i will be meeting up with her for a few days at her new place and (due to suggested sleeping arangements) will probably end up having sex. That is by no means a bad thing but i feel like im being mildly played/used.

is there anyway in which i can maintain some from of dignity and slieght control and grasp over the situation without completely turning down the meeting all together. At the very least i would like to know where i stand, altho maintaining an honest answer without being my questions being played off by flattery, niceness, and looks (again).

is this just a pointless post and/or im out of my depth?

thanks for any replies...

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Pascal.

A PUA is for life, not just for christmas

Pascal! I'm sure many guys on these forums would love to be in that position but I see where you're coming from.

My attitude is that if you're not 100% happy going in, don't do it! With respect, she's obviously got some power over you otherwise it would be a no brainer but sex, or any interaction for that matter, should always be on your terms.

One of the ultimate goals of Pick-Up is to have so many choices that girls like this don't even matter. Having said that, it's important to learn how to handle these situations as worst case scenario, you're going to learn something.

I think you've possibly got a case of one-itis to be considering sleeping with her in which case you should probably just move on. By turning her down, she'll realise she has no power over you and will respect and be attracted to you. Maybe then she'll want a relationship?

Also, bare in mind how she's making you feel as I hope that any self respecting guy would never use her tactics to trick women into bed.

no, i was trying to word it carefully so it didnt seem like the idea was for me to want to use the same "tricks" to get others into bed...honesly the whole mind control part of the game is the one bit that slieghtly freaks and almost repulses me as it takes away the feeling of achievment as the HB (hopefully!) no longer chooses you for your charm/ patter...

i think your compltely spot on, its just embedded feelings are hard to get rid of, my thoughts are one more time, for old time sake (end of an era if you will) however this time knowing where i stand, and then clean break/fresh start.... or is this just MADNESS?

also where should i start (ie A1 and A2) finding all the info, openers, patterns etc..? i put up another post but i doubt it will get many replies as there are so many "newbies" that you cannot tell who actually stand a cahnce and who dont... i would like to think of myself as initial choice but lets be honest, wounldnt we all! once i have the solid base i can prove myself as "not just another one"... fun times ahead...

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Pascal.

A PUA is for life, not just for christmas

hello
YESSS i would agree with the other dude turning her down would make her want u more, sexually but also maybe just want to get to no u leading to a relationship. if u don't sleep with her and say maybe something like "hmm if this is happening again i wanna go on a real date" or do something to just hang out and make her wait for sex, or not have any at all. worse comes to worse..there are many girls, we all have that one girl early on that stays stuck in our mind for a while ha, but things change


as for the other stuff it depends on wut approach of game u want. i spent 2 years with the Mystery Method (very original and perfected) but realized that more natural game and more leaning towards Adam Lyons teaching suit me better. they both work amazingly it just depends on your style of pickup


mR.e

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dont even think just do it!

lets use Herbal's (yes, Herbal from The Game) decision making flowchart.

A. Do you want to do this?
If Yes, go to B.
If No, go to E.

B. Will it likely end in Disaster?
If Yes, go to C.
If No, go to D.

C. Will it at least make a good story?
If Yes, go to D.
If No, go to E.

D. DO IT.

E. Don't Do It!

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