One thing I don't buy about Mystery's Book



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 4:29 pm 
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If you read Mystery's book, "How to Get Beautiful Women into Bed - The Mystery Method," then there is this one thing in the book I don't agree with.

I don't agree with the fact that men who are supposed to have high value are dis-sensitised by women's looks.

Mystery says that a high value male has had so many mates that he is used to women, hence he isn't nervous or affected by a women's beauty.

I find that part bullshit. The initial reason you are drawn to a certain woman is because of her looks. Every guy who has seen a hot girl has a feeling of approach anxiety (he doesn't want to approach because he is nervous because the girl is beautiful). It is normal. It is normal to be nervous around an attractive girl. So I really don't buy the fact that in order to be high value you have to be dis-sensitised by this, because doesn't that ruin the whole point of attraction in the first place?

How many guys could you say that think a girl is hot, but don't have the guts to go up to her?

Also, Mystery says something (during qualification I think) like "you just haven't considered her a romantic interest." I find that BS too. The moment you see a hot girl and you want to talk to her, you already considered her a romantic interest from the get go. It doesn't make sense.

It's almost like he's telling you that these very normal human impulses that you have, you're not supposed to have them. It is normal and natural to have them.

George Carlin said question what you read. I'm questioning it.


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I understand what your getting at but I believe it all depends on your perception. I don't read it as 'high value men are desensitized to attractive women.'

Yes I totally agree I am attracted to first because of their looks. I don't think Mystery means that high value men 'don't see pretty women' but they don't associate the feelings of nervousness around them that most men feel. They have 'desensitized' themselves to the nervousness and feeling that beautiful women have something over them.

A comment on the romantic interest statement.

I don't feel MM means that you don't have a romantic interest in these interactions, that's why the fuck we are all here right? I think that he meant that this is the feeling you need to try and portray for the women, which confuses her normal physiology.

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You are mixing up 2 things. Getting desensitised to a woman's look is not the same as not finding her attractive. To a guy that sees a hot girl once every year, she will be something so special, that he will end up being afraid to approach her and be terrified by her beauty, where as someone who is always surrounded by hot girls grows accustomed to it, and approaching another hot girl will not seem intimidating as he has already learned that even they are only human.

You will see that as you get better and better at it, it becomes way less about the quantity of the girls, and way more about the quality.

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Well personally i think you SHOULDN'T consider every girl a romantic interest just based on her looks. Ok, the looks to tick their own box in the whole thing, but what if she is nuts (Some bitchez be crazy! :wink: ) Approach people mainly to get to know them, not just because you want to sleep with them. They are hardwired human responses, but you have to step out of the "caveman" mindset of just taking care of replication, and actually get to know the girl first, before giving her high value.

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Cool man, you're reading George Carlin :) He was an awesome person. Totally agree, take everything (in life in general, but especially here) with a grain of salt. Find what works for you, not just what worked for others.

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I think that he meant that this is the feeling you need to try and portray for the women, which confuses her normal physiology.
But men do, all the time. Guys offer girls flowers and candy and things all the time. That's why I didn't buy what he said. He says that "just didn't consider her a romantic interest" as if you were not supposed to have it from the get go, which is not true. If I see a hot girl, I clearly have a romantic interest. I want to go out with her, that's why I approach her. It doesn't make sense what he said.


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If I see a hot girl, I clearly have a romantic interest. I want to go out with her, that's why I approach her. It doesn't make sense what he said.
That is where you are going the wrong way. If you already made up your mind that you want to be with her just because of her looks, you will turn out just as any other AFC trying to hit on her. Every women likes to think of herself being more than just meat. If you see a hot girl, go, approach, and be genuinely interested if there is more to her than just her looks. Beauty is common, what is rare is a really cool person inside a beautiful body.

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You don't buy it but it all makes perfect sense to me. You say that many men are scared to go up to very beautifull women. That is true. That is why if you aren't scared and nervous she knows that you are different from all the other 'losers'. You are a real man and that is very attractive for her. I also think that men who always date hot women are not that nervous anymore around hot women. If I look to myself, I used to be very nervous around any kind of women, even the most ugly that earth has ever given birth to. But now, because I have much more experience with women and some good ones too, I feel much more confidence and I get less nervous than in the past.

Also the thing about the romantic interest makes sense. You should indeed hide it. Though, you don't always have to hide it. Sometimes you can just go up to a girl and tell her that you like her and it will perfectly work. But than the girl must really think you are very attractive. By being indirect, the girl doesn't feel like 'ok, he is hitting on me; he wants to get in my pants. That aint gonna happen.'. You are just having a fun and crazy conversation. If you are good in keeping the conversation she might start to like you as a person and think 'wouw, that is a fun guy'. Then, you keep in the convo and there will be a point where she likes so much being around you that she even considers to date you. I mean, I had a similar experience this weekend with a girl. For some reason I got into a convo with this girl. At first sight I didn't even consider me dating her because she was not really my type. But after 20 minutes of convo I really liked talking with her and being with her. At the end I didn't ask her number because my brain forced me to not start anything with her because she is not my type. If I would have been a woman lead by emotions I would have asked her number. If it almost worked with me, than why wouldn't it work on women ?


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