Hey Guys,

Just went through a very similar situation this past weekend. Chick I've known for 4 years and we were always just friends. She's smoking hot and I sincerely like her so I always wanted something more but never did anything. We used to always hang out and go out together and shit but we were just friends. This past weekend we went out for one of my family events a few hours away and she came as my date. I got a hotel room for us to stay at. So long story short we had fun at the party and drank a good amount. Get back to the hotel at about 4 AM. At this point I was so fed up with myself for the past 4 years of not doing anything and being a pu**y I decided to just go for it. I started to kiss her neck and she played into it at first. We went at it for a few minutes then she said I was drunk and we shouldn't do it but I kept kissing her and she liked it because she kept kissing me back. Eventually after 10 minutes or so she told me that she had tried to kiss me before years ago but I told her no because she was drunk (which I don't recall and I wouldn't say that because I am infatuated with this girl). Then we talked a little bit about about why it took so long for this to happen and it came out that she is "seeing someone" and my timing was terrible so I laid off and didn't want to pressure her into having sex. We've been texting for the past couple days and flirting. I am probably gonna hang out with her in the next couple weeks and I don't know what to go with (Pour my heart out or play it cool and game her). I really like this chick and want it to go well.

We never directly talked about hooking up after that night and I don't know if I should bring it up when we hang out.

I was thinking of bringing it up in a joking manner and saying something like "Well you didn't want me to kiss you when I was drunk but I'm sober now" and then go to kiss her and see what happens

Any Ideas?

Didn't mean to write similar in the first sentece, meant to say weird

I feel ur pain brother, i was in a very similar situation with a girl a couple years ago or so, and i never told her about how i felt. A little while ago, we were talking and she told me that she had feelings for me then and just didnt think i was into her. I wouldnt let that other guy shes seeing stop u from acting on it. A word of caution though, in ur attempt to turn ur friendship into a relationship, you may loose her as a friend. Just keep that in mind when ur pourin ur heart out bud.

i want you to imagine this scenario:
you make a move on her. things go south and become weird and she never talks to you again. you've lost her forever.

is this scenario really bad? or is it no more worse than meeting some random chick at a club, hooking up, and then her never talking to you again?

i'm asking you to measure the value of your friendship with her. if losing her as a friend is a horrible loss, it's probably not worth it to take that huge risk when there are girls at all these public venues to pursue.
if losing her as a friend is not important, then you should really try, as giving up will end all chances of you winning her over as a gf.

summing up the point i'm making here:
either way, you are still taking the same risk in losing her as a potential gf, so we're ignoring this risk - if you decide not to pursue it, she's lost as a potential gf but not as a friend, whereas if you take the risk, you have a greater chance of getting her as a gf, but if you fail, run a high risk of screwing up your friendship for good. this is why you have to determine if her friendship is important or not.

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i say this because i have been through an experience where i really liked a girl and we were good friends, and i took the risk and asked her out, and then she completely blew me off and avoided talking to me. it was a very painful experience. so i ask, make sure the pros are worth the cons in a case like this.

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thedon,

You've already been friends for 4 years. She kissed you as much as you kissed her. She made a pass at you long ago. You made a pass at her. You both chatted about why this took so long. . . and now you're flirting. You're at an equilibrium here. You have nothing to worry about whether it's friendship or way beyond it.

Look, you don't spill your guts to her "verbally". You do this and she needs to "verbally" respond the way she thinks she's supposed to respond.

She already knows your feelings or at the very least has a strong suspicions. Just begin treating her like it's a done deal. Just call her up, take her out, have fun. Hold her hands, stare into her eyes . . . make out like you did. Just have a great time with her.

To the scarity cats,

Let it go . . . let it go . . . let it go . . . you want to be "friends" with chicks you want to fuck (but you never did) till' the day when she's got 3 kids and a fat husband so you can come around and be her "gay" friend for the 20th year? Why are you even hanging around a PUA forum? Just go to "gay-eunuch-I've got no balls-I'm a virgin forever-forum.com" and have yourselves a ball.