Hi guys!Im new and Id like to start with my biggest problem-Sober confidence!Im 19 and Id say good with girls Im competitve and see pulling in the same way currently my stats are over 20 but when Im sober I lack the power of speech to make a good pull!Ive read some openers but Im from a small place so I already know alot of the targets and the openers seem very American. I just want to not have to depend on being drunk to pull a hot girl!Help Please!!

Become an alcoholic then you do not have to worry about sober confidence.

Try going out not as drunk or as sober as rehab victim- and build your confidence as you cannot rely on alcohol it is only temporary confidence, you do not have to use the lines here on the forum they do not work for everyone and I am sure you do not use anything rehearsed when drunk. Just do it on the whim like you would when drunk and just relax and have a good time which is what you do when drunk.

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Hey bro,
i can only speak from personal experience, i started going out to sarge about 5 months ago.
I would go to bars on my own and just sometimes stand there. The first time, I didn't do anything in the first couple of hours!! but feel really weird, alone and nervous and so conspicious.

After about a month of doing this just once every two weeks,(i am divorced and have my kids every alternate weekend) I got more relaxed. I still initially got nervous but then found it easier and easier to get in there and just feel OK.

But it takes nerve to start with but I think that thanks to those days, which seem like years ago, now I have more confidence and had some pretty good times too. I may have got pretty no luck with the girls over that period of time but my confidence grew and grew and i saw myself consistently talking to more and more girls... so I am going in the right direction.

Hope that you can have the same experience but you gotta give it a go!!!
must fly , take it easy bro

Thanks for the advice I suppose it will take time!Untill then drunken pulls aint bad!Just not the greatest standard!

Why settle for medicre?

How bad of a drunk are you, I mean do you drink alone in the dark, whilst masturbating over a bottle of J&B? If so rehab is required.

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"That's how you become great, man. Hang your balls out there!"--Copy store clerk (Jerry Maguire)