Reticent Redheads and BBQs - need some help!



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:26 pm 
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Ok then. My current situation is that I've been seeing this girl on and off, and am having trouble moving it to the next level - IE: turning the mood sexual.

She is new to my area of town, and knowing her initially through friends, I've made efforts to bring her into my social circle a bit. She seems pretty quiet in manner, perhaps even shy (she is clearly a natural redhead who has gone to some trouble to disguise that fact, but freckles aways tell...), though this may be to do with the fact that many of the social situations we've been in were with people she doesn't really know yet. She could be a tiger underneath, for all I know! Fingers crossed...

I've been in one-to-one situations with her before - drinking in the pub, a day out wandering, that sort of shit, and she hasn't yet given an indication she isn't keen (IOIs include frequently looking at me and smiling, even when I'm not directly looking at her, slapping me on the arm when I tease her, and her contacting me to initiate 'dates'), but I'm not sure how to move things on.

As an aside, there are points during conversation where I run out of topics to talk about and worry that it's getting boring, the mild panic of which tends to make my brain freeze - is it just a case of doing a bit of homework before you meet, or practicing improvising with what's around you?

I'm due to see her at a BBQ this weekend (which is pretty near to my house...), and could really do with some advice!


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:22 am 
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Kino at the BBQ - then bounce her back to your place.

Grab her by the shoulders, press her into your wall and make out with her.

Seriously, it sounds like she is really into you, and you need to amp up the sexual tension. If there is any dancing at the BBQ, then dance with her. If not then sit next next to her touch her leg in conversation, isolate her, and invite her back to your place for a movie.


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It sounds to me as you are worried you might loose her. With the way you are acting chances are you will as some guy who knows what he wants will step in. Treat her as if you dont care if yo loose her IN A NICE WAY! If you cant get a kiss or her back to your house move on, there are too many girls to have one on your mind this much

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:56 am 
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Kino at the BBQ - then bounce her back to your place.

Grab her by the shoulders, press her into your wall and make out with her.

Seriously, it sounds like she is really into you, and you need to amp up the sexual tension. If there is any dancing at the BBQ, then dance with her. If not then sit next next to her touch her leg in conversation, isolate her, and invite her back to your place for a movie.
Ah, of course, I've been neglecting kino as a way to escalate - thanks for pointing that out! I'm still very new to trying this stuff in the field, so to begin with I'll have to concentrate on making it as natural as possible a part of the flow of conversation when I do it. I feel as if things are heading in the desired direction though ;) , and this could be extra push it needs. Cheers for the help!

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It sounds to me as you are worried you might loose her. With the way you are acting chances are you will as some guy who knows what he wants will step in. Treat her as if you dont care if yo loose her IN A NICE WAY! If you cant get a kiss or her back to your house move on, there are too many girls to have one on your mind this much
Yeah, now I re-read the post, it does kind of sound that way, doesn't it? However, I honestly have no real romantic intentions towards this girl - she's nice enough, but I'm enjoying being single, and before I jump feet first into the kind of stuff that genuine PUAs do as standard, she seems like an ideal opportunity to practice a few of the techniques on, and observe the results. Sounds a little callous, but the situation is what it is - truth be told, I'm more nervous of general failure than I am of losing her specifically. You're right though, I shouldn't take too much time over this. Cheers for the advice!

By the way, tell me if you think this wasn't an example of what you said above (about being a bit aloof), but the last time I invited her to something, and she turned up, I was in conversation with another friend of mine, so I gave her a cheery wave and greeting, then went back to my conversation (I'd spotted that another female friend of mine had started exchanging small talk with her, so I figured she'd be fine for a time). Eventually, she maneuvered her way onto an adjacent sofa to me to strike up a chat, and to make it more intimate, I got her to make room on that sofa for me... I chalked that up as a minor victory, though on reflection, I think I should've made her move to my sofa instead to make it even more so. Does that sound about right to you?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:56 pm 
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Anyway, BBQ happened the sunday just gone...and I didn't really get anywhere. The gathering was pretty small (about 7 people), so it should've been easy to isolate her, but I forgot all that in my haste to both kino and throw out some opinions to the group that gave her the indirect opportunity to qualify herself to me. Weirdly, the other girls in the group were more eager to do so than she was (she being alternately quiet and curiously honest about her own opinions at the same time). It mind sound arrogant, but when I spoke, I think I generally commanded the flow of conversation within the group, and managed any bullshit thrown my way. Still, no dice.

Frankly, seeing as I'd been out with her a few time before I tried applying some PUA stuff, I'd probably blown it from the start - she'd no doubt made up her mind anyway, and other PUAs have convincingly argued that I shouldn't waste too much effort on any one girl.

Fuck me, you live and learn, eh? Time to move on, and start afresh - hopefully this time correctly :P


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