Hi im a total beginner pua really dont know what to do when i meet a chick i often stuff things up. Heres what happened

Meet this chick in a op-shop made a comment about the shoes she was trying on and build a conversation from there ( she had smiled at me earlier so i wasnt to scared to approach her). Then i asked for her number so we could go out some time, she gladly gave me her number and said to call tonight after 7pm and we could meet up then. (in my head i was like wow this is much more than i expected!!) So i called her and she said she would meet me this bar for a wine and her friend was coming also. Got there about 10 minutes late and the two girls came about 5 minutes after that. I had brought a bottle of wine for us to share. There was some poetry been read at times in this place so had to listen to that also. About an hour of talking she told me she had a boyfriend ( i was like seriously what the fuck!!!! in my head, gave me her #, told me to meet tonight, talked for an hour then mention this???)

I played it ok i suppose not to shocked. But asked to many questions about him and stuff. ok she is like 21 and from England, she said her boyfriend is 37 and she cant see it being a longterm thing. I really didnt know what to do. Im 30 by the way.

Then this guy started chatting her up, i think she liked the attention but didnt like him and i didnt know what to do about this. I could of easily punched his head but i knew that wouldnt help things. He asked me in front of her if i was her boyfriend and i said no, then he just started talking to her heaps. I got up went to the toilet and came back and this cunt was sitting next to her, and had taken my spot. I just went fuck this in my head if i stay her im just going to knock this guy out so its better i leave. So i went up to the group (the girl i had meet, her female friend and another male friend who was there and had joined us and this cunt i didnt like) said later to the guy, hugged both girls and said i gotta go now and just left ( i totally ignored the cunt when i did this).

So my question is do i pursue this girl now? or have i blown my chances? or did i not have a chance in the first place because she had a boyfriend? im really mad how the whole scenario played its self out.


also one other quick question, meet this hawaiin cougar on the train about 2 months ago and gave her my number when i got of at my stop (she didnt ask for it i just gave it to her). She called me about 2 weeks later and left her number and said we should meet up for a wine. I called her 3 times over the next week and she didnt answer i left one message and also one txt message. she never got back, now 2 months has past should i attempt to call her again or what?

Thanks so much for any help that you guys can give me. Also note im more interested in a girlfriend but i dont think either of these chicks would be girlfriends so it would be casual.

Thanks!!!

What I always do when some dude tries to enter my set is befriend him immediatly.

Yo bud, whats up ~grin~
bla bla bla
Oh you're pretty cool, you can hang out with us. (always judge them)
~dude leaves~


You're not supposed to give the boyfriend too much attention.
"oh cool, you want another one?", "awesome, he can make breakfast for us" or "ok, ~continue convo~" Is enough.


You could set out another date, but like you said you want a gf, and if you think she isn't gf material it would be a waste of your time.

Cool thanks for the help bro! I like the "oh cool, you want another one?" i think thats great. What do you mean always judge them?
Also do you think its worth asking her out again for the practice and/or just to try and have sex? Also from what i have explained do you think i have a chance at having sex with her? thanks

damn that guy is a douche, if this situation ever happens again, just go to him and tell him straight out, "hey your in my seat." He'll mostly move cause he wouldn't want to look like a douche infront of the girl, and than take the seat and start talking to the girl. This will also make you look alpha as hell.

and if he says "so?", "i don't care", etc.. than give him a chin check.

shoot i duno man
if u looked like something came up and had to go, then maybe itd be okay
but if u looked pissed, then u may have nticed that u couldnt keep your cool
i myself love when guys come up and try to steal my women
cuz 1: remember alpha male
and 2: be fun

what i would have done in the situation, is when he asked if u were her boyfriend (this is assuming you and the girl are getting along and she feel comfortable around you) i would grab her hand and say "i dunno honey, would you think we are boyfriend and girlfriend" and smile and give a little chuckle
always keep your cool
and if you can make him feel like an idiot, but without being an asshole about it, for trying to talk up your woman, he will walk right away. and the girl will see how perfect of a guy you are. even if he doesnt leave, make witty comments about the things he says, stay the center of attention and maintain the higher value. and when you grow tired of him being there, stop him midsentence and tell your girl and her friends, hey im hungry or some excuse "lets get outta here" and bounce to another place.

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