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 Post subject: what am i doing wrong
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:26 am 
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hey i have been to this web site once or twice and i have been reading everything i can about girls. from how to get over approach anxiety to how to get a girl into bed but i still feel confused what i am doing wrong! i started reading things at like 12 o' clock becasue i couldnt get girls out of my mind to 4:10. i been trying to figure out what i am doing wrong because every time i go up to talk to girls it always goes like "i dont think my boy friend is really going to like that"....... and i play it cool by saying "we dont need him" she laughs and walks away wtf!! and now my approach anxiety is at a new high because of failing so many times :(. i dont think my problem is going up to talk to girls because i am a person who dose stupid things when no one else will; i go up and talk to people about the dumbest things like when is the baby due LOL things like that. so i can go up to talk to a girls but when i start talking to her i feel like i start to rambling or that is what i feel like i am doing and after spiting my shity game about the wether and how much schools suxs. i go for the number close which ends up with i have a boyfriend........ i geuss my middle game suxs and idk y because i have made them laugh and things like that.... can some one plz tell me what i am doing wrong. it is getting bad i am listening to mr lonely WTF


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:49 am 
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i think u come off as goofy towards the girls ur serging. Do you talk talk talk? and just make fun of people, your life, the situation your in, the place your at, etc? If so, than yea thats your problem. Girls like LOVE to talk, and they will careless about what your saying unless it's interesting and intriguing. Girls love cocky/funny guys who also take the time to listen and hear the girl out.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:29 am 
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I hear this loads, when you are making a dick out of yourself or acting goofy it is no real reflection of you,if they don't find it funny you will. With pickup it really is just you and her so there is something to loose and it reflects on your ability if you fail lots.

That said I think it sounds like you are trying too hard and as the guy above said are talking too much or probably coming across as insincere. To give better advice I'm gonna need a bit more info.

Where do you usually approach women?
What do you usually say?
How would women describe you?
How would you describe yourself?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:54 pm 
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My coach had a favorite saying everytime our hockey team had a bad game or practice to keep us motivated.
"There is no such thing as failure, only early apptempts at success"

I think that you are over analyzing. Picking up and conversing with women should not be stressful. Have a good time and relax. It is good to sound funny, and in order to do that effectively, you must talk about yourself as if you are the greatest thing to ever happen. This is cocky-funny, and it is fundamental to not only having success, but also having a great time that night even if the overall outcome is no pickups. Some people are natural, some ae not, but the point to remember is that you dont want to be arrogant aobut it. There's a fine line between cocky and confident, and you must toe that line. If she makes a comment, say just that, and smile. she'll laugh too.

This makes her feel less threatened and, for lack of a better word, disapointed. Constantly negging her, yourself, the venue, etc only paints the picture that you do not really like your life or what youre doing with it. and there is no bigger turnoff then that..

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:34 pm 
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I hear this loads, when you are making a dick out of yourself or acting goofy it is no real reflection of you,if they don't find it funny you will. With pickup it really is just you and her so there is something to loose and it reflects on your ability if you fail lots.

That said I think it sounds like you are trying too hard and as the guy above said are talking too much or probably coming across as insincere. To give better advice I'm gonna need a bit more info.

Where do you usually approach women?
What do you usually say?
How would women describe you?
How would you describe yourself?

:)

Where do you usually approach women?
i am in college right now and when i am sitting around with some of my friends and i see hot girl after hot girl. And when i am in class with girls i get there numbers because i guess i feel more comfortable, but wait i still fuck it up at the end. idk y because i used to get a lot of girls in high school but then i was in a relationship for a long time and i think that fuck up my game. my txting is really bad idk what to say now when i used to blow them away with the things i used to say.

What do you usually say?
i usually go up and sit by them and say something like "damn it is hot" not really like i am talking to them but i am just making a statement. Then they say "yea it really is" or i have used the line "i have seen u walk past like three four times and i couldnt just watch u walk by one more time without me talking to you.

How would women describe you?
i think they would describe me as a person that is hot but is trying to hard.

How would you describe yourself?
i describe myself as great person and they should be lucky to have me but idk how to show it. if that makes any cents.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:06 pm 
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I think school/college is rarely a great place to be picking up women (most are going somewhere) although that said there are lots of women in one area so if you choose your time right (time between classes etc) you should get some results.

I think they will also look at it as you coming form your friends to hit on her, so maybe try going it alone and wandering the corridors or hitting the library.

In terms of what you are saying from what you have written it seems like you are opening well. How about hooking do you have conversations with them or does it burn out quickly?

As for the rest I think you are trying to hard and are possibly a little arrogant, which is not a bad thing you just need to tweak arrogance slightly for it to be confidence. Try either dropping all routines etc for a while and going natural for a little while (then when in doubt on what to say say nothing just chill and let them speak) or go around for a while making female friends don't worry about results or anything just make friends.

THese two things will improve your conversation and teach you to chill a little more around women, hope that helps :)


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 Post subject: fixing it
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:03 pm 
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i have gotten some girls numbers and like became friends with them, but i see them as friends and not anything else it dosent really help me because when i go up and talk to girls i like i feel differentl. i just want to no how to get that number close and have her begging for more. i feel like things start off great then just get bored as i go on.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:53 pm 
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Befriend a girl you like. Also number closes are so hideously overrated but I suppose they are the best you can hope for in the middle of college (you see why I avoid gaming at uni), so I would aim for dates then do the real work there. So anything like "there is this band playing you should come a long" "such and such is having a party" etc real low pressure stuff low risk high reward ( a rare and beautiful thing). Then run game outside of school and escalate.

as for getting women begging for anything, that will come in time just keep approaching and practicing.

For now the best advice I can give is don't bother with pone numbers until you have kissed the girl, achieve this by meeting outside of school/college whatever then escalate and build attraction, this will get them chasing


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 Post subject: last question
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:52 pm 
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thanks for all the help i just got one more question where do i start?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:23 pm 
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I would make a goal or a couple. Something like I like that girl I will get her or this month I will get x amount of numbers etc.

Its really for you to decide what your goals are going to be but if you make goals and write them down then you will be more likely to do them and have a clearer idea of what you want and what needs to be done to get it


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