in general, what kind of approach is best for girls with low self esteem? i should of picked up this HB7-7.5, she was definitely into me (went from a college beach day party to her inviting me to drink in her room just us two to meeting some friends for drinks at a lounge) and all the IOIs were there. i started off CF and using negs but once i realized she had low self esteem, i switched tracks without thinking about it or really meaning too i became a nice kiss ass by the time we were at the lounge (being drunk didnt help too much). she obv started to lose interest once i started acting nice. i know now that sticking with CF and negs would have given me better results but i thought i remembered reading in the forum archives about mystery takling about different strategies for girls under 9...am i correct or not remember correctly?

thanks in advance

Sometimes happens very hot chick have complexes about certain part of her body. When you are not lucky, you can hit on that part and make her feel uncomfortable.

Anyway, when I see girl has low self-esteem, I use negs, but not relating to her look, but to her behaviour.

And being nice guy doesn't work on any girl, maybe for ugly nun.

I get so damn bugged by low self-esteem women, they just bug me to the point of not gaming them. However you find a low self esteem cutey, I have found us vs them works really well with them without getting psuedo-psychological on you I think it is due to a me vs them way of seeing the world that low self esteem women have.

I also think that under no circumstances should you directly-SOI, this gets you blown out or more likely forces you to eject and kiss ass when they don't believe you like them. Instead let natural IOIs roll and without saying it show interest (kiss them etc). Another good way to do this is use her friends in the pickup mostly they will be like ooh a great guy going after our shy friend lets help, so you cna tell them you really like her etc when she goes to the toilet or bar, they let her know and because it comes from them she believes it (I assume she thinks they have noticed it or I conveyed it to them in an awesome way but coming from friends it gives a certain validation to the whole thing).

Finally, showing weakness is a great way to bond with low self esteem women it cuts the whole player vibe and shows you are human too (that sounds arrogant but it makes sense).