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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:10 pm 
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Hey everyone, as the title suggests, i've been caught up with one-itis with this chick i met who is a classmate of mine, stuck hopelessly in the friendzone. Bare with me here.. Let me give you a little history of the situation:

Attending my second year here at long beach state, i had signed up for a class in which to my surprise had this ridiculously hot chick in it that i had been dying to meet since highschool. Sure enough, i began talking to her and we hang out 3 times a week for an hour after class, get lunch, bullshit, whatever. In the beginning of this whole thing i could tell she liked me.. the way she looked at me, how she touched me, laughed when i laughed at things only i thought was funny. She would walk very close with me everytime we were going from class and on campus, suggestive of a very intimate distance if you guys study proxemics. We'd always hang out with another classmate, a friend of mine from highschool whom she had known as well; him being the typical afc, more so than me in my current situation. At the peek of her percieved interest in me, she invited me to her apartment with my friend, played video games, while i was given enough lone time with her to make a move, i regretably chickened out, made no move, in a irrational attempt to preserve our friendship, a move i regret to this day.

From then on, things went downhill. I was so sprung on her i lost sight of the game i needed to be playing. Her interest in me declining day by day, while i tried in futile attempts to get her back, worsening the situation. Nowadays, shes reluctant to hang out with me, and when we do her attitude is way different; she knows i like her and she tries to manipulate me to do things for her, to which i respond with utter refusal, keeping my pride and dignity from being stolen. I know theres other girls out there... i know i know.

Since shes indirectly making it clear i cant have her, i've been going out of my to indirectly show her that i dont need her, telling my friend in her presence about all my recent fucks and hookups, her responses always schemingly distractive, sometimes very probing and body language communicating some levels of jealousy. Yet, it still seems futile. I've stepped up my appearance, hitting the gym and getting extraordinarily ripped for a naturaly skinny guy; to which she takes subtle notice, futile. Semester is ending, and i doubt i'll see her again after it. There has to be something i can do, because i envision the success of having her sexy ass as a fuck buddy all summer long..lol. if not, another failed prospect, oh well. Any ideas are greatly appreciated..


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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 10:25 pm 
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lol DAMN

I know exactly how you feel.

This is not a simple situation either.

She gave up on you. She is still very attracted, she just gave up.

Which means shes trying to move on.

Be careful, cause she may try and make you jealous now, and play you to help her self esteem.

This all happenned from you not making the move.

Now for the remedy:

Let go of the outcome.

Stop looking for IOI's.

Know that what your going to do, will make her rape you.

Become super nonneedy (think rock star). Get distracted while YOUR talking to her.

Let her "win you" and let her actions "change your perception of her for the better"(QUALIFY HER)

Make her feels intense emotional states, and arousal (try talking about these states if nothing comes to mind)

Touch her sensually, but make it seem as innnocent as possible.

Randomly and rarely, state your desire, balme her for it, and let it go. Don't let her bring it up at all. Use this very I repeat VERY sparringly. And only as a latch ditch effort.

Start doing these things and she will start showing interest again.

Once you have that:

You're going to need to get her alone with you, for a significant period of time, and in a place where you can have sex. (Try a party, that you control. You don't want others hitting on her at this point in time) In others words YOU MUST MAKE THE MOVE.

Your also going to have to watch out for her ASD.


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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 10:31 pm 
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Hey everyone, as the title suggests, i've been caught up with one-itis with this chick i met who is a classmate of mine, stuck hopelessly in the friendzone. Bare with me here.. Let me give you a little history of the situation:

Attending my second year here at long beach state, i had signed up for a class in which to my surprise had this ridiculously hot chick in it that i had been dying to meet since highschool. Sure enough, i began talking to her and we hang out 3 times a week for an hour after class, get lunch, bullshit, whatever. In the beginning of this whole thing i could tell she liked me.. the way she looked at me, how she touched me, laughed when i laughed at things only i thought was funny. She would walk very close with me everytime we were going from class and on campus, suggestive of a very intimate distance if you guys study proxemics. We'd always hang out with another classmate, a friend of mine from highschool whom she had known as well; him being the typical afc, more so than me in my current situation. At the peek of her percieved interest in me, she invited me to her apartment with my friend, played video games, while i was given enough lone time with her to make a move, i regretably chickened out, made no move, in a irrational attempt to preserve our friendship, a move i regret to this day.

From then on, things went downhill. I was so sprung on her i lost sight of the game i needed to be playing. Her interest in me declining day by day, while i tried in futile attempts to get her back, worsening the situation. Nowadays, shes reluctant to hang out with me, and when we do her attitude is way different; she knows i like her and she tries to manipulate me to do things for her, to which i respond with utter refusal, keeping my pride and dignity from being stolen. I know theres other girls out there... i know i know.

Since shes indirectly making it clear i cant have her, i've been going out of my to indirectly show her that i dont need her, telling my friend in her presence about all my recent fucks and hookups, her responses always schemingly distractive, sometimes very probing and body language communicating some levels of jealousy. Yet, it still seems futile. I've stepped up my appearance, hitting the gym and getting extraordinarily ripped for a naturaly skinny guy; to which she takes subtle notice, futile. Semester is ending, and i doubt i'll see her again after it. There has to be something i can do, because i envision the success of having her sexy ass as a fuck buddy all summer long..lol. if not, another failed prospect, oh well. Any ideas are greatly appreciated..
Hey man I can totally reason with you; I've been in this situation many a time. I was in the same situation this past semester, I could repeat it word for word. I had the same result. She gave me all the signs that she was into me but she got bored man. I didnt make the right moves, albeit I did try. I asked if she had a boyfriend once when we had lunch, tried light kino (touching on the arm etc.) and when I finally had my chance (she came to my dorm to study) I blew it. She even stayed over for a while and all we did was talk and I could tell she wanted to do more. She left my room disappointed. I dont know if it was nerves or a lack of knowledge of what to do (I'd say a combination of the two) but since then is isnt the same. I even asked her to chill one last time and she told me condescendingly that she couldnt because she was talking to a guy. She gave me a look and then walked out of my life. And as far as looks, they arent everything. Trust me. So no advice here just wanted to let you know that I reason with ya. Good luck bro!


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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 10:42 pm 
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lol DAMN

I know exactly how you feel.

This is not a simple situation either.

She gave up on you. She is still very attracted, she just gave up.

Which means shes trying to move on.

Be careful, cause she may try and make you jealous now, and play you to help her self esteem.

This all happenned from you not making the move.

Now for the remedy:

Let go of the outcome.

Stop looking for IOI's.

Know that what your going to do, will make her rape you.

Become super nonneedy (think rock star). Get distracted while YOUR talking to her.

Let her "win you" and let her actions "change your perception of her for the better"(QUALIFY HER)

Make her feels intense emotional states, and arousal (try talking about these states if nothing comes to mind)

Touch her sensually, but make it seem as innnocent as possible.

Randomly and rarely, state your desire, balme her for it, and let it go. Don't let her bring it up at all. Use this very I repeat VERY sparringly. And only as a latch ditch effort.

Start doing these things and she will start showing interest again.

Once you have that:

You're going to need to get her alone with you, for a significant period of time, and in a place where you can have sex. (Try a party, that you control. You don't want others hitting on her at this point in time) In others words YOU MUST MAKE THE MOVE.

Your also going to have to watch out for her ASD.
I beg to differ with your remedy man. I've been in this situation time and time again (to my dismay) and unfortunatley when you blow it the first time with a hottie, or just about any girl for that matter, especially when she's expressed interest in you they get bored and move on. Nine times out of ten, but if you're really into her I guess its worth the shot. But you should really move on, because she sure has. Ignoring here in an attempt to get her back will only push her further away. As far as talking to her sensually and innocently, that'll only drive you deeper into the friend zone. Trust me. I do agree with your last point about attempting to make a final move. If by divine intervention you get the rare chance to get her alone again...dont blow it!. If you do you might as well just sit somewhere else in class and move on. Take care guys!


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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 5:06 pm 
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First off I'm tired as f***, so any spelling errors, vagueness, or seeming rudeness is unintentional and I apologize before hand.

Scorpi0, I forgot, stop making yourself more attractive to her, and stop the jealousy plotlines.

Now, explanations are in order here.

BxBwoy, perhaps I was too vague with my remedy.
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when you blow it the first time with a hottie, they get bored and move on.
Yes they do, but I've had incredible succes rate at turning this around.
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But you should really move on, because she sure has.
I agree, he should move on, but I see this as a learning experience, hes says that if nothing happens oh well, so I say use it to practice.

She is attracted. She didnt think he was, and now she sees him as just wanting him becasue he can't have her. So now shes playing the game of having him chase, while getting over him.

Ask a female friend. If they disagree, I'll retract that last statement.

So he needs to be non needy, to take her game away from her, which in turn will make her do things to get him to chase.

Once she does that, reframes her actions as chasing, qualifies her, and she "wins"

She wins because of what she did. She gets to feel she seduced someone who didnt want her.

Will it turn into something meaningful? Probably not, but its not impossible.
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Ignoring her in an attempt to get her back will only push her further away.
I'm not saying to ignore her. I'm saying to create an emotional void, and to remove neediness in a way thats attractive.

He could even ignore himself to be amused by something going on twenty feet away.
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As far as talking to her sensually and innocently, that'll only drive you deeper into the friend zone. Trust me.
I said touch, not talk. You want to touch her so its sensual, but not where you are trying to be sensual. If that makes sense. If not I'll go into more detail.

I gave him the internal mindesets, and the external actions.

They must be used WITH each other, or it will fail.

Another thing he could use at a crucial moment, is the 100% perfect girl story.

It's magic.

Like I said, this is not a simple situation.

If I'm being too vague again or something needs explanation, just ask and I'll do my best to help.

P.S. Thanx for pointing out the vagueness of my SPAM Bxbwoy.


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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 6:42 pm 
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Thanks for all the input guys.. What do you mean by :"You want to touch her so its sensual, but not where you are trying to be sensual." Im not that keen on kino to begin with, she is, and maybe thats an underlying problem lol. And whats the perfect girl story?


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What do you mean by:"You want to touch her so its sensual, but not where you are trying to be sensual." Im not that keen on kino to begin with, she is, and maybe thats an underlying problem lol.
I mean to touch her in ways that will arouse her, but to do it in such an inncoent way that no one could even think it was intentional.

Here's an example:

Say you see an eyelash near her eye. Take you hand and lightly brush it away. Just don't brush it away though, take you hand and move in a C shaped motion following her face (classic movie kiss move).

Innocent, as you just brushed an eyelash away.
Sensual, becuase she thinks of a kiss.
Not trying, because you hand just "happened" to follow that path on its way back to you.

Make sense?

Now lets give you a brief Kino bootcamp. Let's get this kino expert amazed. Are you ready soldier?

Good.

1. Touch with the back of your hand, using the tips of your fingers.

2. NEVER bring attention to your touch.

3. Never use "static" touch. Don't just put your arm on her shoulder, slide your hand across her back and let it rest on her shoulder.

4. Always pull away before she can even think of feeling weirded out. Generally, just before you get comfortable.

6. Follow this general escalation: Arms, back or top of legs if shes sitting, face, then ergoenous zones.

7. Watch her to tell if your touching too much. Its always best to cross the line and back up, then never touch enough.

8. Always topuch when she's feeling positive emotions. Rarely if ever, touch her when shes feeling down.

Final tip: Keep everything light, just like holding a butterfly.
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And whats the perfect girl story?
It's magic.


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lol... Nice strategies :D


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Seeing if i can set up a date with her tonight.. shes gonna be in my hometown so im thinking movies maybe.. earlier today (before reading your last post undercover) she was pretty close with me like.. like we were sitting and she sat right next to me with her thigh against mine very intentional.. the whole time im thinking DAMN i wish i didnt forget my gum cuz i woulda played that situation more confidently if i wasnt trippin about my breath.. LOL. trying to game tired as fuck early in the morning, one perfectly placed obstacle always foils my plan. Great stuff on the kino though.. ima use it tonight if i see her


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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 8:52 pm 
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Cangarats man, your in! Just don't stop what your doing.

Last bit of advice:

Try and avoid the movies. Get something where its just the two of you, think walk on the beach at night ( I know overplayed) or small cafe at night. The point is use your enviroment to set the mood. If you have friends joining you, make sure its a small group that you can shake off later. When your alone with her, and its quiet, thats when to use the 100% perfect girl story.

And don't worry about the little things (breath for example)
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lol... Nice strategies
Thanks


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