| Wow this sounds tough. But I like challenges. Ok, let's be specific.. where in the gym can you have sex with her? In the shower? Now, you're definitely going to have to be able to be seen around with her and it's going to have to be ok with everybody. Will this be a problem? I'm assuming it shouldn't. However, that being the case basically if I was in situation like that I'd social proof the whole place before anything. I'd expect to meet her in the process of social proofing. Make it clear she is not the target. Unless you don't want to waste any time and you really want to go in direct. However, direct game is for the pros. That's the truth. mPUAs can just go in there directly and qualify a female within record time. It is absolutely impressive and is what I'm aiming to achieve within however long it takes me to get it done that's when lol... See you can't hear my tonality, text is so boring... Anyway, what do you mean by this?:
"That obstacle is penetrating the group of attention giving AMOGs surrounding the target"
Ok. I got the AMOGs surrouding the target part. In what way is the obstacle penetrating the group of attention though.. question mark? I don't know if any of this can get you into any serious trouble, if anything happens I make a disclaimer right here and now anything you do on behalf of anything you might've heard or read about on these forums is between you and yourself... This conversation never happened alright LOL!! Ok. Shit like that. That is situational humor. Tease her about the forbidden. This is a perfect situation for that. Use the word forbidden. It will trigger an attraction switch for you. Wait until you qualify her well enough though. If you can time that right with some proper seduction it'll go smooth. Prison humor is also perfect. Tell her how this place is just like that. "You're my only hope baby." Have fun with it.
I don't know what this experience would be like but I'm using my imagination faculties right now and I'm seeing a lot of imagery. I'd make friends with the highest officers I could. I don't know if that's possible in the military. But I do know you can get your superiors to respect you. One way or another you are going to have to social proof your whole battalion/platoon or unit or whatever. Next question: what is a TSE? Sounds important. Tell me about the women in the support battalions. Also, what do you feel are "normal" AMOG disarming techniques? I think I might see now what you mean. If an officer chooses to AMOG you all he has to do is give you an order because he's your superior, right? Hmm, sounds like a real problem. A real challenge. Ok. There are two ways about this. You can rise in rank, or you can try your best to disarm the AMOGs by making them like you and qualify themselves to you. This will be difficult but it can be done. As a matter of fact I was pulled over by the CHP (highway patrol) this last week and I got a superior officer, someone higher in rank than myself (a civilian), and actually got him to qualify himself to me eventhough the situation could have landed me in jail. He let me go no problem. I just know how to handle myself like that.
In a military environment you will have to prove yourself and DHV and sarge all the guys. That just goes without saying. I have been doing that my whole life it's just natural. It's sarging females though that is the real challenge. I don't know how I do it but I get people to qualify themselves to me whether they are guys or girls. People tell me I am intelligent. Yes, I would consider myself an intelligent person, no problem.. But there is something that can be learned that I'm doing that I know could work for somebody else. That thing I think is information. Knowing things. Having a good memory. Being good with words. I study dictionaries, I will be posting shortly on the benefits of studying etymology keep an eye out for that. But specifically in this case you're going to have to know everything better than anybody else there. Whatever it is that you do that you are, in this case it sounds like your avatar is the Soldier, you be the best damn Soldier there is. Just like a doctor should be the top of his game, the head of the department or whatever, you got to be that guy. In a military setting this translates to being good at everything it means to be a soldier. Good luck with that.
However, you will also need to be different and stand out and peacock in someway. This maybe the most difficult thing to achieve because in this kindof scenario you're not allowed to stick out at least you're not suppose to. It's something you get punished for. So this is where real finesse and care is needed. What can you do or add to your persona that won't get you in trouble? I'm never really too worried about somebody's outer game though than I am the inner. If you succeed in social proofing the entire circle you might actually discover your military career taking a flight you never expected. If that happens sarging in the military would be no problem. However, I have no idea what your plans are. Could be you're only going to serve for a short period of time and then go home and change career paths. But as long as you plan to sarge in that environment you're going to have to social proof it for sure. Focus on that first. In the process of social proofing you'll come across your targets, as a matter of fact it should increase your exposure and pool that you encounter. Or rather: you'll meet more women this way.
Like I said, you're going to start indirect game because you just got started and considering the situation it sounds like your safest bet for now. As you improve you'll make the call when you want to go in direct or not. As you go through and social proof the place you'll eventually run into your targets. Let's assume it's the worst case, yet most common scenario as you are describing: there are AMOGs everywhere and one or two targets within the entire place. It means you have to walk into that situation where you've already social proofed the AMOGs BEFORE the targets get there. In your barracks, sleeping quarters, whereever that is, make sure all the guys know who you are. If you do this correctly you'll already have AMOGed everybody else before you even get to the attraction location (mess hall, gym or wherever). This way these guys give you less shit when you try to get your sarge on.
So you walk into the room, there's one chick she's surrounded by a dozen AMOGs. Holy shit I've never seen so many sausages. I don't know if that would make a good line or not but it's what came to mind.. nasty. lol.. If the situation is as you describe somebody should be in the process of busting an AFC-sarge. We call these guys AMOGs but they're really pushovers. Go straight up to the guy.
"Hey I know you! That's right I remember you now.. Back in New York! Ya you remember my cousin right? I'm so sorry dude she was so wasted that night!"
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"Hey you look familiar... don't I know you from somewhere? [Now with surprise] O that's right!! You're in that band! That one that goes dun dun, dum dum diddly dum..."
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"Hey aren't you from that unit that got lost in our last deployment? Ya dude that's right I remember you guys now we thought you guys went AWOL or something.."
I just made up all of those right now. Except for the band one I just used it Friday night. Whatever his reaction he'll have to respond to you. Period. As long as he does that he just got successfully AMOGed by you. That is if he doesn't come back with something better. That's part of the game. But if your game is tighter you will win and with enough practice you will. Every time. If he pulls rank on you you're going to have to play it cool and make sure you get your body language correct and use your eye contact to reinforce your authority. This will be difficult. If you get caught AMOGing an officer he might make you do something in front of the target and this could be bad. If that happens you will comply as he says for sake of your career, BUT you'll have to pull a smart ass exit in order to get her to remember you. Here's how. Let's say the AMOG pulls rank and gives you an order. You can use regulation and procedure on your side. Exaggerate your salute and the "Yes sir!" response. If you do it correctly he'll be annoyed. He might not say anything else. As this happens be sure to make eye contact with your target and give her a "You believe this guy?" kindof smirk with your body language. If you can set the frame that he's being the serious jealous type and you're the one being the cocky/funny type. She will become attracted to you and not him. He just lost her and you just AMOGed him.
IF however... he responds with something worse and punishes you further. Scrunch up your eyebrows like you're tired. You're bored. Whatever dude I don't give a fuck. Give him that expression. Then look over at your target like "hey there cute stuff" and give her a wink. Walk away calm and cool. You must be unfased at all times. If the AMOG loses his temper this just makes your job easier later. Females like cool guys not pissed off ones. If he looks insecure and you look at ease you have a stronger frame. That's what's important.
Anyway I could imagine a million different scenarios here but I hope I helped paint a pretty clear picture of what you're going to have to do when you walk in the room. You have to approach king shit first and get rid of him off the bat. If you don't she'll just see you as another one of the men. Usually there will be more than one AMOG. This might actually be easier than you think. Once you disarm the first one go straight to the next one. Sometimes a woman will have a man on either side of her, flick them both off. Expect to be interrupted by a third, a fourth, etc. AMOG them all back to hell. Once you get whoever is in conversation with her out of the picture. You need to create the frame that you're the only guy that makes sense. Here's how. Don't ask if you can do anything. Just do it. "God I need to sit down.. you don't need to take up all this space do you?" A rhetorical question isn't asking anything but it makes her think "am I what?" in this case taking up space. It's sortof a neg. Ya, this would be a good spot to neg. If she's exceptionally cute, neg her good. If however like you say you're dealing with maybe something more 7ish for the night and just need some good bangin.. well don't neg too hard but do be funny.
About the sitting down part I mean sometimes I'm just a straight up asshole and I tell people to move. It works. Telling anybody to do anything and making them comply to you instantly shows you are a leader. However, I do this in a real subtle way. I tell them "Hey bro excuse me, just passing through" whenever dudes are surrounding my target. I literally tell them "Con permiso my friend." That's part of my identity as a bilingual speaker... that alone makes me different, it makes me stand out and it makes people respond. They don't know me, they don't know what I'm capable of. As soon as you start being assertive like that AMOGs just end up looking like ugly females. You can make these guys melt away easy. Just approach them before you approach her. In the process of getting rid of the AMOGs you will have qualified yourself to her. If you do this correctly she will be impressed. Use this to flip from indirect to direct. This always happens when you enter qualification. Remember you came in indirect, you weren't hitting on her you were talking to these weird looking guys around her and telling them what to do.
Let's say you're all standing enjoying some leisure time. Once you disarm all the AMOGs you should have built enough social proof and attraction to qualify her, reward her, and either time bridge or make a move to a seduction location. If you want to play this traditional you'll have to get the right amount of comfort before you fully seduce her. I'm not saying you got to take forever before you bang her but some women don't like to beat behind the bush and will be so impressed with you that you could probably immediately take her somewhere (like the gym you mentioned, I'm guessing the showers?) and just fuck her there. Anyway I kindof jumped through all that right now but basically sounds like this situation calls for a lot of AMOG disarmament and actually if you're good at that it just makes it all the more easier to seduce her.. really. It's a really really hott thing to do to brush off other guys like that. She'll probably end up qualifying herself to you as soon as you give her the chance. If the situation is anything like I've described above you should have some success in no time. Good luck.
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