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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:21 pm 
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well the question pretty much describess it...
do looks matter? or do girls dnt caree?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:00 pm 
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Look do matter only at first, However i dont think its REALLY important. I think your personality, energy, aura about you will keep them attracted to you.


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100% agree.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:18 am 
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Though I believe Im a good-looking guy... I can honestly say NO looks do not matter. Tight game is superior to looks any day. For example, imagine the best-looking guy you can think of but give him no game.. and obviously no.. looks do not matter, make him insecure and shy and it doesn't matter how good looking the guy is he'll never see what's in front of him. I know because I feel that's the guy I used to be. If you are physically attractive, it forces you to learn game b/c of the increased exposure and encounters, but it does not by any means increase your chances of being successful with women. Game does that. The ugliest guys with the tightest game have no worries because the truth is high-value women (HB10s) do not respond as strongly to looks as they do to status, security, and overall survival-value. Tight game makes a woman believe a man is more attractive because she believes he possesses these qualities. This is what attracts her. Not a man's looks. That is the truth. NO, looks do not matter. Until I learned and understood enough about spitting game my looks got me nowhere. I dont know a single woman that kissed me because she thought I was cute... only because she thought I was cool. And there is a huge difference. Looks can get initial attention that can help you learn to spit game but you still have to learn to spit game. Otherwise you can be the best-looking guy on the planet but if you're a slow learner it doesn't matter how many women approach the guy he might scare away every single one if he doesn't start to calibrate and learn from his mistakes.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:54 am 
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Looks DO matter, but not in the way that you are thinking. Women respond
to a guy that takes care of himself. This includes grooming and fashion sense.

If you dress poorly, people will perceive you as someone that is NOT prosperous and who lacks social intelligence. We as human beings want to feel prosperous and align with people who we perceive to be prosperous.

When you dress and groom yourself it says a shitload about who you are.

Obviously the better looking you are the easier it to OPEN. However if you don't know what you doing, have a weak frame, etc, you will not get the girl.

Basically, girls will give you more fuckup points if you are better looking. I have students that are NOT traditionally good looking and they manage to snag women and attract them.

Luckily, looks can be changed and altered rather quickly.

If you have missing teeth, bad skin, or any other thing of the sort, get it taken care of. It will affect your game because women want to align with high value males that have their health, wealth, and relationships in tack.

Also, when you dress well you need to look sex worthy and look like you get laid.
Notice in a bar, club, or even in a mall which guys look like they have women in their lives. There hella easy to spot. They stand out.

Your Job:

-Look the best you can by educating yourself about Fashion
-Get a fashion consultant to help you out. Best if they are gay guys. Hell
go to a gay bar and look at what they are wearing.
-Subscribe to GQ, Esquire, Details, and Maxim.
-Develop value for fashion. Go shopping if not only to look and try things on.

Your Goal
-Find out what clothing looks best on you and find a look that makes you get a high response from women. You know your dressing and looking well when you
start to get compliments.
-Your clothes should make YOU feel sexy. This can really help with your self-confidence.

Get a new hair cut. Get a decent pair of shoes. Get the laces up guys unless it
fits your style. Women notice shoes.

Hope that helps.

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"Basically, girls will give you more fuckup points if you are better looking"

EXACTLY. That is so true. They "forgive more foibles" the better you look but that's about it... it's like having more hit-points, you'll last longer but it doesn't mean you'll win.

All a "look" really does is give you an identity and that comes with "style" and shows you have "class." I have a rocker identity so I have long hair... a long goatee that says "I don't give a fuck" and I wear shit that makes you know that I'm a musician.. I get opened with "so what do you play?" a lot.. I tell them "you if you play you're cards right" ... just choose your avatar, your persona and be congruent with it and make sure ppl can figure it out just by looking at you because whether you want them to or not that's what they are going to try and do. Women are interested in status, therefore they don't see "blonde 9" or "red 8" .. they see "carpenter" "pilot" "doctor", etc... Select something cool and take it to the max and peacock it as best you can. All its going to do is give you more room to work with and more space for fucking up... which can be a bad thing if you dont catch where you're fucking up. As a matter of fact that was my sticking point... women let me get so far with them that I couldn't tell all the mistakes I was making early on.. so dont think it can't curb your game negatively.. it can so be careful. Make sure you pay good attention to what women respond to with your words and not just your looks... so you got a girl grabbing your ass now... so what? do you know what to do next? If you dont it serves you no purpose.


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all that being said, if you look like the bog monster, you will not get any chicks

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Yes - absolutely. The worse you look the harder you have to try, the better game you must have. If you look very bad you have to have extremely tight game to compare with average looking guy with average game and with best looking guy with somewhat poor game


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I'm not sure what you're question is. If you mean do you have to be good-looking to approach a good-looking girl? The answer is no. There's other ways girls are attracted to guys other than their looks. Being outgoing, positive attitude, smart, playful, very funny (flirty funny is good if you want to attract a girl), having a girl around you (sometimes a girl will check you out or even get jealous), the list goes on.

The thing with looks, it can only take you so far. The rest its going to be up to your game (which means your personality/character).


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Looks mean little to many gorgeous girls. Maybe some fat American girl wants a good looking guy because she is a very basic animal (reason why American girls are usually fat and trampy). I learned this when I left America the first time. America and Britain are basically cultures of pleasure. Sex, food, drugs, and booze. Repeat over and over. That is America/Britain in a nutshell. No depth to the girls. You can see it on their bland empty faces. Ever wonder why British and American teen girls always get drunk on the weekends? Even with tough drinking laws they still are drunk. Visit most of Continental Europe. A 12 year old can drink booze, yet the youth rarely are drunk.


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Looks can only help. They are not necessarily a disqualifier unless you have completely let yourself go... superior game/identity trumps everything.

That said you do want to be the guy that takes care of himself. If you got pimples, fix that. Groom yourself. Take showers. Go to a gym. It's hard for her to care about you if don't care about yourself.

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I heard about this study which said anyone can increase their attractiveness by 6 times simply by keeping firm eye contact and smiling to the person they're speaking to.

A face only becomes beautiful when it's in a state of animation.. If you train your face to be more expressive by smiling, showing surprise, frowning, etc, you will seem more attractive to the person you're talking to.

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