For the past two weeks, I've been talking to this HB9. We hit it off pretty well but I've only seen her twice so far because I haven't been home much. The two times that I went out with her, we have had tons and tons of kino - but its been the kind that lasts only briefly where she trips you or pushes you and you run her into a pole - stuff like that. I love it, but for some reason, she won't go much farther than that.

The other night at a party, I got up for a second and she stole my chair. When I returned, I pulled her out of my chair and tried to set her on me knee. She said she would rather stand. She wasn't mad at me for pulling her out of the seat; she just didn't want to sit on my knee.
Same night, we were chillin out on the couch and i angled myself to where if she had to sit comfortably, she would have to lay up against me. I pulled at her hair a lil and told her to lay back. She wouldn't have any of it.
There are a couple more examples, but you get the point.


The problem is... if we can't kino escalate, then I will feel uncomfortable going in for a kiss, and sex just isn't gonna happen.


Two things:
- She definitely 100% is into me.
- She is very playful.


Does anybody have any advice that may help me out???




Thanks,
sInsational

um...Stop Being a Pussy and go for it

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sIn, Just as with any interaction or any level of the game, it's not the progressive actions, it's the TRANSITIONS towards those actions that can sometimes make or break the whole frame. It seems to me that you're trying to go from the playful mode of just fucking around with each other, to something completely more intimate (i.e. cuddling, her sitting on your knee etc). That's like trying to shift from 1st gear to 6th gear with nothing in between... and the result is a huge lurch and a stall out (forgive the car analogy ) In this viewpoint, you guys pushing one another into stuff and basically being facetious is like 1st gear, and if you want to rev it up and hit top speed, sex will most definitely be 6th gear...but you've completely disregarded 2-5!!! So what does this mean as far as your kino goes? Well it's called kino ESCALATION for a reason...it's not a LAUNCH, it has to ESCALATE progressively more and more.
Now for some specifics: I think what's needed here is PROLONGED physical contact. Something that's going to last longer than just a push or shove, so start small. *Have you held hands yet? Simple, yet powerful! and most definitely more prolonged! *Put your arm around her as you guys are walking... and here's a tip for you guys... *when walking on a sidewalk beside a road, INTENTIONALLY start out with her on the road side...then put your hand in the small of her back, and guide her in front of you, as to move her away from the "danger" of the street. This is an old school gentlemanly thing to do and works really effectively if you make an effort for her to notice it. (hence not just starting out with you on the road side). *Other innocent prolonged contact: arm in arm! This is so so simple and I have done this numerous times. Just stick out your arm! She'll know what to do with it. No you don't have to be wearing a tux to do this! I did this walking into the grocery store with a girl on our 2nd date lol!
Sometimes its QUALITY over quantity... *Brush her bangs out of her face and behind her ear. I've done this everywhere from a very first interaction to the few dates after that. It's cute, unexpected, caring, and overall just sexy. Ladies dig this for sure and it helps with intimacy. * take off your jacket and give it to her if she gives a shiver.... these aren't really kino per say but definitely involve an increased level of contact and these actions are just as effective as touching her.

So bottom line, make it progressive... one thing leads to another. A handhold is bigger than no touching at all, a hug is bigger than a handhold, a kiss is bigger than a hug, more and more and more until you reach sex which is the most intimate of all. Start small and build, and the rewards will come back 10fold.

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Shreder, thank you for the detailed post. It looks like you put some good thought into it.


But this is what I have been doing... As I said , I tried to get her to sit on my knee in the chair, as well as rest up against me on the sofa at the party. A couple nights before, I tried to do the arm-in-arm thing, but she tugged for her arm back a few seconds later.

I'm just starting to think that maybe she's just not one of those touchy-feely people. Or maybe I'm just overreacting. idk. Either way, I'm not going to stop trying to kino-escalate.



'preciate it.


sInsational

Shreder....5 star reply brother....awesome advice. I like the way you think. It comes down to being different and today no one shows the level of chivilry you are talking about. However, they should because its classy and it sends the right message to girls..."I'm a fun loving guy who might bust your balls one minute but I'm a rock who can take control of the situation". Talk about raising your value. Well done!

honestly, its good that ur making moves but ur making quick hard ones
take it step by step like shreder said..
if she pushes you or gives you the little friendly punch, play around with her and give her a hip to hip push and play around with her
if she playfully punches you, rub ur arm (or wherever she punched you) and give a sad face and a playful "oww" and smile
that always works for me
they usually always give an awwwwww and rub the spot they punched and you all laugh

but i guess if u KNOW she is 100% into you then i dont see why there is a problem
so there is obviously less than 100 and u need to slowly ESCALATE like those guys said..not just jump into it

laughter is honestly the way to a girls heart but dont fall into that friend zone
show her that u still want what you want with it but let her have that good time

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