Okay so I'm kind off dating this girl, who is playing hard.

She's kind off acting like a bitch. She's the typicall young girl who's playing games all the time (attention craving, trying to controll the situation and all this stuff).

I'm soon (normally) going on a party with her, that shit is very important to her, it's some party where you're supposed to come as couples. I'm not really excited to go to this party I just go because I know she wants to go.

Last time we met, she was playing hard-girl (really being a bitch) so I responded by making fun of her (I can be quite cocky-funny). Then she acted sulky (I'm not sure if it's the right word, what I mean is that she just looked mad with her arms crossed). So I tried to uncross her arms, make her laugh and all that shit and it didn't worked she played the sulky bitch.

So at one time I just told her to leave, she wasn't leaving. When I said it to her again, explaining she acted rough and it didn't made any sense to stay there being mad at me. Then after a while she slowly became a bit nice again (kind off funny when I think about it...this really brought her to an emotional point, her voice tone was filled with emotions when I gently told her to fuck off. She later texted me that it did something to her when I told her to leave, that noone ever said this to her.

Then she had to leave (which I allready knew before but still it pissed me of that she wasn't staying but I tried not to show it too much)

I want to go to bed with her before the party, if I don't I'm just gonna get pissed being at a party with this girl I haven't even slept with (I dunno, I would just feel it's ridiculous, lol, it would be unfair).

She texts me a lot (but I guess I'm no exception, she's just a crazy mobile phone texter) this is also hard shit 'cause those messages are full of games.

Wtf should I do, when I freeze her out a bit, she tends to come back..[/code]

i think u know wut to do, jus b c&f n not kissin her ass i get the feeling shes use to guys doin wutever she wants... So jus show her ur in charge but not in an asshole way! Yea and keep doin freeze outs... How much kino has there been?

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I am also in a similar situation like yours where you have a girl that is in your game but is also playing hard, in my case seems to be a natural gamer but not quite.

I am also seeking for advices, and here's my introduction.

Hi. I am new to this forum but I am not new to the game.
Recently I have met this girl through a school activity.
It has been 5 days since I started gaming her. My game was going on pretty well, using push and pull, neg, and cocky-funny methods.
I am also getting a lot of IOIs that she is interested in me but this girl is quite different than other girls that I have gamed before.

She is a natural gamer, lets put it that way. She is appearently in my game, but she also has a mind of her own. It is not hard to game her but the mind reading part and psychology effects are quite hard. You know that she is in the game but she sometimes act as if she is in-control of the game.

That will be my brief introduction to the game I have right now.
However, I am facing some problems.

I have recently upset her by giving her a shit response or a neg.
She brought up that I did not reply to one of her txt msgs, and of course I would not give her the correct answer at the first place.
And the reason to why I did not reply to that msg was because that was a neg (punishment).
The problem I have now is that she would not talk to me, and I am just freezing her out in response.

Like I said, she is different, and keep in mind that a girl can always leave your game (saying leaving the game mad, sad, pissed, or whatever).

At this point, what should I do to keep her in the game and continue to be in control?

My advice for jonathanwhales is to not say anything to her for about a week to two weeks unless she speaks to you . If you already did this for that long or she never texts or talks to you at this point than start talking to her. If she is into you at all she will get over whatever you said and if she is into you at all she will miss you more than she is pissed off at you. And if she is still pissed off at you after that long than theres not too much you can do and i would move on from there .And realize that when woman are bitches or too into themselves thats when you neg or ignore her.However if you neg too much or are a big dick to her she will do likewise and ignore you and be a bitch to you. You dont want to neg to often because no woman wants to hear insulting teases all the time. A playful tease is still a form of an insult.

You could start by getting her drunk. Young chicks and alcohol =

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k that last post was a joke right. Anyways basically you've got two options. You could go AFC, give into her games and be who she wants you to be. You might get her body but you won't get her respect and its not going to make her crave being around you.

What you should do is not play her games. She's trying to make you jump through hoops. Grab the hoop from her and make her jump through it. You probably intrigued her by not giving into her games. if she keeps playing hardball, take it up a knotch and let her know that you aren't going to play any of those games. If you lose the girl, you keep your respect. If it works, she'll be chasing you.

AltaiDater:

I'm having trouble understanding why you would go to this party with her even though she is acting like a bitch? That's like giving a dog a treat for pissing on your carpet. This is why girls act spoiled and bratty all the time, because guys give them what they want even though they don't deserve it. Stop doing that.

Of course she is going to sulk and act mad, that is what they do when things don't go 'their' way.

Telling her to leave was classic, I love it. THAT is the way you handle these type of women. She must know, without a question, that you will not put up with her nonsense, period. If you continue to adopt this mindset, your success with women will go through the roof.

She comes back when you freeze her out because now you're a challenge, interesting and it allows her to get involved in the chase (which she enjoys, but won't admit). Keep doing what works...

jonathanwales:

You gave her a shit response and now she is upset? So what! If she isn't talking to you now, f*ck it, that's her problem. She thinks that you will come back running because all communication with her as stopped. Most guys would come running back, so I think you are doing the right thing by giving her a taste of her own medicine.

What you need to do now is not let this situation consume you. Get out there and start gaming other women incase this doesn't work out in your favor. Focusing 'to much' on one woman will bring out your AFC tendencies. The more options you have (other women), the better.

If you want to remain in control, you must communicate the right attitude. Letting women know that you do not 'need' them, that your world does not revolve around 'them' is the attitude I'm talking about. This mindset will ALWAYS put you in the driver's seat.

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Keep people off-balance and in the dark by never revealing the purpose behind your actions. - Robert Greene

FUCK THE MIND GAMES AND ESCALATE.

Seriously the girls trying to get your attention, take advantage of that and escalate regardless.

SiNfUl & nameofthegame:

Thanks for the reply.
What you just said was absolutely the game that I was totally playing.
Just a quick question:
1. If she comes running back saying she is sorry and shouldnt have done that, should I continue to punish her (in the sense of telling her that she shouldnt be so childish/ridiculous and what Mystery would say which is telling her that I have mistaken her as the girl I like when a woman is being rude to him) or should I just forgive her and play the emotional game?

Fin:
How would you do this exactly then?

OK to go into more detail, the girl you've described is of a certain calibre, they tend to be low self esteem, and mask that by being aggressive and fiery to over-compensate.

Now this is usually a screen to protect themselves from harm by weeding out the weak.

Point being THEY NEED A REAL MAN TO PROTECT THEM.

I just want you to understand that she is probably alot more sensitive than she lets on. ALOT MORE.

So don't be put of by her behaviour, she's just trying to get your attention and suss you out.

Now taking this into account, I'm betting her actions aren't half as confusing or even menacing as they first seem.

Escalate physicality, kino basically, arm round her shoulders, touching, sitting down leaning on eachother; work your way up in sexuality basically.