Im 15 a nerd but know speed seduction i have ross jeffries home study course I read it. i also read fast seductions entire player guide and patterns. I am now reading the october man sequance. What patterns should I run on her shes in my wood shop class? She is like the most popular girl in our grade. How should i approch her. Please help cause the homecoming dance is coming up. Thanks

Drop the OMS, you shouldn't need it.

And why do you spout what you've read? Reading endless amounts of books won't matter unless you go out and apply it.

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And if you have read Speed Seduction, then you will know that it really works
on the smart chicks... The ones that have grown-up and their mind is fully
developed and they have a wide range of vocabulary...

Seeing how you two are around the ages of 15-17, I would suggest that you stick
with the basics of the game...

Don't go running patterns on a girl who is in high-school or junior-high, the ones
in the lower grades of high-school will just look at you like you are on drugs,
and the ones in junior-high will think nothing of it and just start talking to
someone else.

You might want to start with changing your appearance.. the way you dress,
your hairstyle, grow a go-tee or "chops". Changing your appearance will
help you out ten-fold in school.

If you still think that you can just run a pattern on a girl of a young age,
then all I can say is... good luck to you.

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really, i have to say patterns dont work, especially in High School. im graduating next year and i have to say after reading some material on this site and various others, all the routines and patterns seem a little impractical.

im actully 17, earlier years in high school i was a totally nerd. band and video games for me. anyway at that point where i really wanted a girlfriend, i realized that if i wanted some HB's, and not even 10's(high school aint the place to be finding HB10s, HB9's if ur extremely lucky), i would need to shape up. and so over the last years or so ive been building up social value. the main thing in high school is you want people to know who your are and that you're a good person. im not saying you need to become the most popular kid in school, im saying that you need to start getting to know lots of people.

im not saying that you dont have a big group of friends, im just basing this on my own experiences. earlier on i was with the same small group of 4-5 friends everyday, and now practically my whole grade knows who i am, and that im a friendly guy, even some of the younger and older grades.

and by doing this ive found many more opportunities to start up relationships, that are either closers or gates to other prospects. like right now im working on a girl ive known for awhile now (yes its one-itis but im in high school and im not trying to get the noteriety right now to getting a ton of girls, just a girlfriend for the time being) and let me tell you, i havnt been doing any patterns, i havnt hit her with any DVH stories(although ive thought about it), and i dont have some serious plan for any pick-up lines or routines but im still getting loads of IOIs in the process. im just being friendly, nice, and finding common things like music or just joking around.

Its all about getting over AA and just learning what you guys have in common. like i doubt she'd be someone to just brush you away if you tried to be a friend. one little piece of advice, if you know that you'll be yourself and get all nerdy, try to stay away from that part of your life. im not saying completely change who you are , just try not to freak her out with it...i know ive done that a few times.

anyway yeah theres my splurge for the evening. its a long post for my first one but yeah. just look around the forum, find articles about combating AA and being able to have conversations with girls. like LEPRECHAUN said, stick to the basics. just being able to be comfortable around girls and having normal conversations with them, in my opinion, are the most effective methods to being a PUA in high school...that is unless you go for the HB8-9s or the really stuck up kinda girls....you may need to change your game a little but stress to much.

Ah, Highschool. It's a double edge sword. The girls are a different breed. The highschool that I attended (really rich and snobby.. so many sorority like girls with big boobs it was unreal) made gaming really easy. a lot of perfect tens lots of opportunities to neg. without telling a story i kind of hit on the idea of negging without actually knowing about it "The Game" or any of it's components... I really wish i would've, but I did fine as it was so no worries. I would drop patterns unless you're trying to seduce your teacher... but seriously not a bad idea if she's hot...

Try simply starting conversations without telegraphing interest. If she's in your shop class or whatever. Start cracking jokes in her direction about your teacher in her direction without coming off as try hard or like a tool. jokes directed at teachers make HS girls laugh period... if it takes her a second to get the joke if it was genuinely funny, neg her on whatever you can about it, and boom your in set and convo. Pull some david d. cocky funny super DHV, still seem uninterested.. popular HS girls want to be negged.

Thats my 2 cents

Hot popular HS girls+massive amounts of negs=attraction