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Ive been seeing this girl since Christmas, shes 25 and I'm 18. Every time we hang out she does not give it up.

Like I tried the come back to my place to check x thing out and she won't
I tried going to her house to check x thing and she wont.

Ive ran a shitload of routines on her and she always stops me when we get close to sex. Then I froze her out for a couple of days and tried again and nothing.

I'm just like wtf cause I thought all that psychology stuff said that girls looooooooooved sex. lol

Now it's to the point where I feel like leaving cause the time I spend with her I could be out fucking other girls.

Then I don't get it cause every once in a while she'll tell me how much she likes me but I don't feel like waiting a fucking year for her to fall in "love" with me if its going to be that kind of relationship.

Its like she trying to go slooooooow, like a snail slow

I feel like giving up and moving on but then it's like I'm counting myself out to early. I do like her but I just got of a relationship and don't feel like being with some one for a year (or who knows long) before it goes any further or worse I get friend zoned.

Thanks you guys for giving me someone to turn to

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Some girls I know for a fact, I have girl friends who have this rule, they will
not sleep with a guy until they are "with him" for at least 2 months...

If the guy stays with them for at least 2 months, then they will give it up to
him.

This little "rule" that they have weeds out the guys who are only wanting
sex from them and not a LTR.

If you just want to have sex with a girl, let it be known up front that all you
want is to have sex with her, nothing more, nothing less.

Some girls will want this also, not all girls want a relationship with a guy, they
just want to have someone they can turn to if they need to get laid, and if
you are this guy, then it all works out.

There are different ways to look at the PUA way of life. It's not all about
getting laid, and it's not all about sustaining relationships, it's a mix of all
these things...

It just depends on what path you want to take that determines what kind of
game you need through out there.

Then again, you might just be acting too TRY HARD or too interested too
fast.

Like are you always having the conversations leading into sexual talk before
she is even a little turned on? Don't turn up the heat too fast or you will
only cook the outside and the inside will be raw.

Cooking innuendo, my bad. Cooking steak on the pit right now XD

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Thanks for the reply

Actually I don't really talk about sex cept for a joke here and there. I try to just have fun as much as possible with her.

For example when were making out she'll stop me so I tried out what Style did in the game where when she stopped me I got her off of me and gave her my back.
She came back and we got back to it and again its been going like this for a while.

I honestly wouldn't have a problem with hanging out with her and just being her boyfriend with no sex but I keep reading that I have to fuck her or I'm going to get in the friend zone.

I know its not impossible to do it and I know I can. I wanted to see if anyone has been in a similar situation and how they broke through the LMR?

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She's not a virgin? If she is, then this poses another little hick-up that we
can deal with if this is the case...

You might want to consider that this girl might like a man who takes CONTROL
and is dominant in the bed.

When you do the freeze out (as in book), when she comes back, you should
start tickling her, get on top of her and hold her hands firmly down above her
head, like you are restraining her so she can't move.

Start kissing her slowly and licking her and all that other shit...

She will start trying to get up from you restraining her hands above her
head playfully. But if she is serious about it, then tell her to get on top of
you and restrain you. Tell her that she can do whatever she wants to, to
you. But she has to make it kinky or else you will take her home and you
will go to bed.

I know, sounds a little like WTF are you talking about man... but if you do
this shit, it should turn her on even more... if she likes to be dominated, she
will not get pissed off that you are restraining her...

If she likes to be the one who dominates or likes to "play"... then she will
be glad to get on top of you and restrain you and start doing all kinds of
kinky shit to you... thus, making her more turned on (and you too) and
which will eventually lead to....

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Yeah I guess fuck it I'm just going to keep pushing as far as I can. My thing was that I didn't want her to think I was all about sex cause then she would leave.

This is how I'm looking at it now either I don't push for sex she gets frustrated that I don't have the balls and leaves or I push for sex she has a talk with me about how she doesn't want to be used and we move forward, or I push for sex and get it.

I think she wants me to go for it cause we play crazy control games.

She'll try make do things and I don't budge, or Ill tease her about something and then she'll try to see if Ill take it back.
If this is a reflection of her personality then maybe it means that she wants to see if I can take control. Ok I think I got it.

Thanks leprechaun, big help dude you made my day lol.

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ok wat i do when i make out is rub her thigh she will push u away. get back to it a lil later just keep goin one step further lol

turn her on man get her more worked up then u