background:
For about two to three weeks now, me and this girl have been flirting at school. She is soft-spoken but has a sense of humor. She also parties a lot and acts like she doesn't give a crap about anything. I have pulled just about everything out of my bag of tricks for this one. I've used plenty of kino, I proposed to her and we flew out to vegas to get married (lol), I froze her out (because she flaked on me after she said yes to go wherever), I made friends with two of her three good friends, we had a sharpie war, pushing fights, and we have been texting alot except for when i froze her out. The only negative signs she has given me has been flaking on me twice because she "fell asleep" and telling me she couldn't go somewhere else because she had "an essay to write" on a friday night. I just can't get her to go out. And I'm a pretty good-looking guy, definitely better than average.


So I asked my best friend for some advice. I told him that I was planning on making her make the next move and not doing anything. He told me "Man, I don't know. I think you gotta be the man in the relationship. I just can't imagine her ever being the one asking a guy out." Neither can I.

Then I asked my best female friend for some advice. She told me "You're making it too easy for her. Girls like a challenge. Make her make the next move."

This is just dandy. I feel like I'm walking on an effing tightrope made of 5 lb test fishing line.



So how do I make it a challenge for her, entice her in to making the next move, and be the man in the relationship... all at the same time, when she doesn't seem like she could give a shit about anything?




**I swear, if your response includes the word "oneitis", I will hunt you down and hang you on the nearest telephone pole.

So thanks for reading this and I appreciate your response








sInsational

Do you like any other girls at this time?

try spending a bit of time with them, see how keen she is on you then..

that would deffinatly do it

It's kindof hard because we only see each other in class and in the parking lot, and there aren't many other girls around, but i'll give it more of an effort. I think I'm also gonna try to either text or fake text other girls when I'm around her.

why fake text, if there arent many girls in your life, get girls in your life.

Soup, you act like everybody is born with superior social skills. Unlike a lot of people on this forum, I won't claim that I have girls lined up waiting for me in bed or that I am the life of every party at my school. I'm not that man... yet. It is a work in progress and part of the reason why I'm here.

So until then, I may have to "fake it until I make it", whether I want to or not.


Anyhow, thanks for you're suggestion. It makes sense and I will work it in.

you may not be born with superstar social skills, but you are born with enough, I honestly believe that.
You are born with resources to be able to make friends, everyone is. Its just about stripping away all those things that hold you back from doing so.
Plus, its most certainly doesnt take "superior" skills, in fact most people will want to be your friend, even if you have below average social skills. humans are social creatures, and are driven towards making friends.

Hell, i dont claim to have girls lining up for me, in fact im quite inexperienced in that regard, but i have a few female friends.
I understand how the last message came across, I realised at the time it sounded a bit critical, but i didnt have the time to explain what i meant by it.

well, get some girls in your social circle as LJBF for pre-selection and some social proof.

GET PIVOTS!!!

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Yeah, that's my biggest problem. I don't have a social circle. I have a ton of acquaintances that I know, but only a few really good friends that I hang out with on a regular basis. And all of them go to different schools besides my own, so the most I ever hang out with at one time is like 2 people.

This year, I have recently tried to join two separate social circles at my school, but I can't quite break in. For some reason, I always end up hearing about "who passed out after just two drinks the other night", but I hardly ever witness it. It sucks, but I'm gonna keep on trying.

So I am not completely without social skills, but I just don't quite have an identity that says i hang out with this specific group of people. And this is why I only have a couple female friends who I talk to on a regular basis.