Hey, I know there are lots of ways to handle amogs, and I've read up on as much as i can, but sometimes especially at more house oriented parties, there are super asshole amogs (usually frat amogs, or FAMOG) that it doesn't matter to any degree what you say, they will rip you for it.. litterally impossible to disarm.

For instance, I was at a party with a 3 set of girls. In the absolute middle of a number close, a famog comes out of nowhere not in set just to tell me that i look like a gayer version of bon jovi because of a vest i was wearing that night. the key is that he was unprovoked. at this point it doesnt matter what you say at all, because he will retort with "you're so gay". other times i will be in set and succeeding and I'll have a famog approach us just to tell me to shut the fuck up, also unprovoked. just really really weird super severe amoging, just started happening at about the time that i started to get good at the game. I know its possible that they see me wearing weird clothes and thinking why the fuck is that working? i need to go take him down a couple notches. i know how to handle your standard amogs, but recently it's always when I'm in set or post kiss close that these bizzare insults start flying around. what do i do?

and no, ignoring them or befriending them doesn't do the trick

also sorry it's so long

"Hey, spanky. The adults are talking. Why don't you go have a sausage fest with your other little frat buddies in the bathroom? Maybe you can give each other collar-popping tips."


That's probably what I'd have said. Or:

"Yeah, I'm obviously very gay, surrounded by these women. Thanks for the Bon Jovi compliment. That guy got more ass than a suppository, and he was way richer than your daddy ever will be."

Now, I don't have any experience with being AMOG'd, because I don't really go to parties or anything. But I'm a huge smartass, and if ignoring them or befriending them isn't the answer, then you have to be quick on your feet. You could even sit around and think of planned witty remarks to make at the next guy who tries to show you up.

thanks, that is definately the right direction, I'm sure there are others who get this rare amoging. any other amog tips would hopefully help a lot of people

And another thing. The thing you should be least afraid of is the smug "you're gay" comeback you said he'd throw after every remark. It shows his lack of creativity, and he's only broadcasting the fact that he's an idiot. If women are around, it's probably a good idea to bring it up, so everyone would see through his little act.

Personally, I would avoid using highly insulting comebacks like "Hey, spanky..." The people that are insecure enough to be an asshole to you out of the blue, tend to have fragile egos. When you make a little offhand remark, if they feel insulted, they tend to respond with violence. When that happens, regardless of whether or not you "win" in the violent situation, the chances are you have already lost your initial goal of building a relationships with women.

However, if you were to go back to the initial statement, and respond in a non insulting manner, you could avoid the violence all together. For example to the bon jovi comment, you could respond with, "You think I look like bon jovi in this? Sweet." Then if he did respond with a gay comment, you could respond, "if it takes looking gay to be like bon jovi, I don't really care, that man is a legend." By doing that, you have displayed a high value. You did not let him effect you negatively. You did not stoop to his level. You are still having a great time. I like to think of AMOG's as shit tests. If you allow them to change your frame, you fail.

Personally, I do love smart ass remarks for dealing with assholes in general. I can do that because it fits my frame, and I do it in a way that is not offensive to the other person.

The other guys have pretty much nailed it, the key I have found is be unresponsive for example;
famog: you look gay
Pua: Sorry, not my type -turn back to girls-
famog: so you are gay
pua: yup I am a rager, I make liberachy look like James dean
famog: -generic line-
pua: -unphased response-
famog: -generic line-
pua; -to women- wow he is try hard, maybe I could set him up with one of my gay friends or something

It will continue for a little while but once the girls are thinking he is try hard and see him putting in loads of effort he will look like a tool

also a sweet line is turn to the girls and say "holy shit, we need 3 shots of estrogen stat" hhehe or"I didn't realize it was asshole hour, I would have popped my collar if I'd have known".

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really good tips guys

Sometimes I like being a beast of a man. I'm 6'4" 250lbs. (It's not all lean... but I've got it where it counts. ) I'm not someone you walk up to and immediately start being a dick to for no reason.

Seriously, you've got to be on crack and/or steroids to want to pick a fight with me out of the blue.

I'm sure having that mentality helps. I honestly believe it too.



Downside is, I come off as being intimidating to women too. (Jesus, he could break my neck and throw me in the river with no effort at all!) However, I overcome that by really focusing on my body language and tonality.

I've only been AMOG'ed by a guy once or twice. I'm not timid, I take up a lot of room, and I don't afraid of anything.

(Thinking back: The times I have been AMOG'ed, I was out of frame, having a bad night, and felt pretty down. My shoulders slumped, and I really looked and felt like a loser already. Easy prey I guess.)

Just take some martial art classes then kick his ass. He would completely embarassed by getting his ass beat by a guy in a vest.

Drunk people have huge ego's and get in people's faces. I have to be drunk to be around other drunk people or i get pissed off really fast. Like if my sober self meant my drunk self i would be like "stfu you tool." Just go downtown at night and everyone is running around screaming with huge ego's when they normally most of them would be quiet reserved.

I'm not overwhelmingly scrawny or anything, i mean relatively in shape. if I wanted to i'd kick his ass, but that kind of defeats the goal of pickup.