well... ya'll i'm new to this forum, and i hope i can get my problem resolved here.

im having a problem on how to attract the girls.

I've read double your dating, the game, and dating to relating. but none of this stuff seems to get to me.

i know i can get the girls attention. plus i have good posture, hygiene, clothes, and a deep sexual voice.

I bearly started flirting and using kino.

idk if this is enough information to get a response back. this fucking sucks. i'imi getting real frustrated

i hope you guys can give me some real good advice.

hard to see what your problem is. Maybe some specific examples would help

hmmm... lets say this for example...

you know how you meet a girl and she enjoys talking to your for a while?

and you get the number or e-mail address...

i succeed on getting all of those. i don't text that much or send her messages through e-mail but i do just to say whatsup.

but then after time it feels like the attraction wears off after a while.

this includes friends aswell. when people think about me and tell me... its usually a bad impression. they call me a dick or a jerk. I know i am a dick to girls and friends sometimes, but i feel like i overdo it.

girls never see me as bf material. probably because i don't use kino that much? or flirt as often?

i need help. plz

Maybe you need to step away from the academic side and move into the actual doing it part. You didn't talk about how much you've actually tried. But if you're reading and not doing,,, well then.

If you want to start meeting women, start simple. Start meeting them. get your confidence up, put your smile on and start saying you hello's. Don't be afraid to be shot down. As a matter o fact expect it, laugh at it. learn from your mistakes and keep on going. Getting shot down is actually a required part of getting better.

If you've been trying all that with no luck,,, maybe find a mentor. A guy or guys with good game. I used to have a great crew. We had a guy for every type a woman we met. We'd even debrief eachother at the end of the night.

Last tip, if you're a bit shy, don't forget you can practice PUO techniques all day on women you have no intention of meeting. The receptionists, Burger King chicks, librarians whoever you encounter. Learn to turn the charm on with them. Put a smile on their face.

Good luck

Hmmmm pretty good advice. I sometimes stay home, and read these book for a large extended period of time. I'll go out more.

now for the trying part... well i don't actually. not necessarily. i sometimes do if the girl has a cute personality. But i think this could be my problem. The past couple of days i've been doing gestures and flirting... i get damn good results.

I winked at 1 girl she started blushing, and would tell me she was looking for me all over the place.

another girl told me she loved me... i don't know why. lol

another girl got aroused and called me sexy/charming.

anything else i could work on?

Looks like you're heading in the right direction. Keep doing what you're doing. Maybe start expanding on that and taking it to the next level.

If you're making some good contacts, start closing some deals and walking with phone numbers. "Hey,, it's been a blast talking to you. But ya know,, I,, have,, got,, to run. Put a pen and piece of paper in her hand and say "Look,,, gimme your phone number and we'll chat later".

The first encounter is only to establish some chemistry. Once that's done leave,,, you can only really ruin things if you stay too long. It also shows that you've got shit to do other than rap with women you just met.

Also,,, if you've been studying a heap of stuff,, it just gets to be too much. Go back and find the good stuff, find five things you have to work on, write them down and read them every morning as a reminder till you're ready for new stuff.

Good luck

WHoops, metalhead,, I missed one of your posts. Looks like you are getting numbers. Here's what I see from what you wrote.

When people who know you get the impression that you're being a dick or a jerk, that's because you are acting like one. Hey, not the end of the world. Happens to the best of use.

In your case,,, hey brother, you ain't gonna be able to charm any ladys till you learn to charm the people around you. They're even easier. It looks like you've been making a bad impression,,, so get to work on that.

Build your charm factor. Google it for ideas. For anyone, charm is huge. It determines what jobs we get, what friends and the women we get. Heck, you'll live longer. Dude, it is freakin magic.

People with high charm have confidence and are nice people. People are drawn to them. People with a lot of charm always seem to have something good to say. People with a lot of charm find good things in life and have a good sense of humor. People with charm remember names and give lots of compliments. People love to hear compliments about themselves! Don't skimp there.

For a start,,, don't ever put anyone down. Don't say negtive things. always try to say something positive. that shows a lot of strength. People respond to it immediately. Just got dumped by some hot chick? Instead of giving her a public "frying", just tell your buds "whoa,,, she is missing out". Put a big smile on and laugh.

Get that smile going, get your confidence high. Think about someone who has a lot of charm. We all know someone. Now think about how they do it? Get the idea?

Good luck