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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:05 pm 
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What would be a good example of a pua apologizing?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:11 pm 
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Depending on the situation. You can apologize all the time but there is usually a way to go about it instead of being a AFC apologizing

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:30 pm 
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AFC Adam talked in a video about how he thinks it's good to apologize in some situations. So it's not something that is totally eradicated from the PUA sommunity. But most people see it as an AFC thing. The reason is that most people use it in a AFC way.

In the seduction community you learn both concepts (high-level) and techniques (low-level). I think both are good. When you are in the game for a while you become able to build techniques based on the concepts you know. You understand concepts based on the techniques you've learned.

Never appologizing is kind of a technique. I think the main concept behing this is about demonstrating high value and not low value. Most people appologize in a way that DLV. If you in some situation find that you can appologize in a way that DHV or reaches some other objective then that's good. Otherwise the rule of thumb is to not apologize.

Returning to video by AFC Adam. He apologized when approaching a business woman in London during lunch time. In that situatioin he saw it as a sign of politeness and not DLV .


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Hey prize send him a link to that video so he can get the idea

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Only be sorry if you are sorry....alot of guys say sorry because they think it is what the girl wants to hear....If you say somthing that she does not like but you mean it then dont say sorry because you are not sorry lol see what I mean?


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Hey prize send him a link to that video so he can get the idea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wEDm-OUkFg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36gPzUQf ... re=related


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as has been mentioned, an apology can be a DHV and a DLV depending on the situation and delivery.
many guys think apologizing is always a DLV because you're not being unreactive etc and that's utter bullshit.

a lot of this depends on your frame, the situation and on the girl

i've often had girls be very unreasonable etc and expect an apology, which is basically just a shit test. just brush it off and move on. i even turn this around to make her realize she DLV'd by calling her out on it and getting her to apologize to me. this takes some finesse though.

if however you were at fault and she's not being unreasonable, a real man would apologise. so make it sincere. and as has also been pointed out - mean it.

side note - if you're busy teasing her and she says you're mean, grab her and hug her, say "im sorrrrryyyyyyyy" and kiss her cheek. works well.


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