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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:09 am 
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Hi everyone,

Umm well I'll try and explain as simple as I can.

I like this girl - I told her that. She told me she didn't know what to say. She mentioned that 'she thought she might be interested in me' recently.

She once or twice in the past has texted me saying 'are you going to be on msn tonight?' That kind of thing.

Erm what else. She tells me she enjoys talking to me/hanging round with me. We text a lot .. a little more than friends usually do!! Like we used to text after msn in bed. Had banter together via text. We get on very well when we hang around with our 'group' at school and out of school.

However she told me recently that she likes me as a 'friend' AT THE MOMENT. I asked her if anything might happen. She tells me 'who knows what might happen in the future'.

From what I can gather, she is a shy girl, she used to get bullied (and I seriously DO NOT know how, this girl is beautiful honestly), and she tells me 'I'm unsure of everyone right now'. I know she had some family trouble this past year, even though I only told her I liked her 3 weeks ago. We get on great, that's the main thing.

Where do I go from here guys? What kind of things shall I say? Should I just keep talking normally?

I get the feeling she doesn't know me well enough. And ALSO it seems she hasn't completely blanked me from having a relationship with her. With another of my friends she told him 'nothing will ever happen between us' - she hasn't told me that.

She seems very mature for a 16 year old - and I respect that.

Please guys, any advice - I would so much appreciate a really dedicated helper(s) here. I truly care for this girl, and all I want to do is be there for her etc.

Please guys, I'm kind of lost with this girl.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:23 am 
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Well I'm not sure how much of a help I can be but I'll try my best. First off, once you hit the LJBF zone, you are taking on an incredible task to move out of it. Second, you can not use half of the stuff that you read on here for high school game. At that stage of life even the most beautiful girls really do not have the self-esteem to take on any negging and the community of a high school is much closer than college or bars/clubs that she will constantly be worried about how others view her actions. So you will have to take all of this in mind before you pursue any further.

Your first mistake... you put her on the pedestal. Have you ever heard the saying "Why buy the cow, when you can get the milk for free"? Well it works both ways. I'm sure you know how it is used to describe women but think about how it applies to your situation. If she can get you for deep intellectual and emotional conversations at anytime of the day whenever she needs you, what reason would she see in going out? Simply explained, men are more after physical attraction while women are after intellectual/emotional.

Now what comes next is purely opinion and has had no trial and therefore no success or failure attached to it. Because you're in high school you can't cold shoulder and most definately you can't do a complete 180 from the nice-guy to blowing her off. You will crush her self-esteem and most likely will lose all chances with her. But you can't keep her on the pedestal either. You need to still engage her, but only when it fits your schedule, NOT hers. Start pursuing other girls (that you have opportunities with) and when she asks why you don't have as much time for her anymore tell her the truth: because more of it is going to [insert other girl here]. And be honest with her, tell her that you would have more time for her if you were going out. But be sensitive about this, tell her with a deep interest for her and not because you're trying to be a jerk and make her jealous. If you come across as anything but sincere you will once again kill your chances.

After this exchange you shouldn't expect immediate results but you should also fortify this by reinstilling the fact that you like her as more than just a friend and would really like to be there for her more if she would let you.

Like I said it's only ideas and may only be good on paper, but you can read over it and take from it what you want. Also, even though I'm out of high school now, I wouldn't mind hearing what others had to say on my approach.

Hopefully helping,
~GQute


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:55 am 
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Well I'm not sure how much of a help I can be but I'll try my best. First off, once you hit the LJBF zone, you are taking on an incredible task to move out of it. Second, you can not use half of the stuff that you read on here for high school game. At that stage of life even the most beautiful girls really do not have the self-esteem to take on any negging and the community of a high school is much closer than college or bars/clubs that she will constantly be worried about how others view her actions. So you will have to take all of this in mind before you pursue any further.

Your first mistake... you put her on the pedestal. Have you ever heard the saying "Why buy the cow, when you can get the milk for free"? Well it works both ways. I'm sure you know how it is used to describe women but think about how it applies to your situation. If she can get you for deep intellectual and emotional conversations at anytime of the day whenever she needs you, what reason would she see in going out? Simply explained, men are more after physical attraction while women are after intellectual/emotional.

Now what comes next is purely opinion and has had no trial and therefore no success or failure attached to it. Because you're in high school you can't cold shoulder and most definately you can't do a complete 180 from the nice-guy to blowing her off. You will crush her self-esteem and most likely will lose all chances with her. But you can't keep her on the pedestal either. You need to still engage her, but only when it fits your schedule, NOT hers. Start pursuing other girls (that you have opportunities with) and when she asks why you don't have as much time for her anymore tell her the truth: because more of it is going to [insert other girl here]. And be honest with her, tell her that you would have more time for her if you were going out. But be sensitive about this, tell her with a deep interest for her and not because you're trying to be a jerk and make her jealous. If you come across as anything but sincere you will once again kill your chances.

After this exchange you shouldn't expect immediate results but you should also fortify this by reinstilling the fact that you like her as more than just a friend and would really like to be there for her more if she would let you.

Like I said it's only ideas and may only be good on paper, but you can read over it and take from it what you want. Also, even though I'm out of high school now, I wouldn't mind hearing what others had to say on my approach.

Hopefully helping,
~GQute

GQute. Well done, buddy. That's some solid advice. Respect.


Mathomas1,

This girl needs to see you're alpha. YOU are chasing HER. SHE needs to be
the one to CHASE YOU. you need to make her WORK for your attention
but NOT in a jack ass way.

But as GQute said, once you're in the "Friends Zone" it's not "impossible"
to get out, but it's BEYOND extremely difficult. Just keep at it. make sure
to make her HAVE FUN. don't be boring.

That's really all i need to say, GQute covered the majority of it.

Hope you get this solved soon, buddy.


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