I have a group of friends, on Saturday nights we mostly go out for the girls. I would not call it sarging since we are all very unexperienced and quite unsuccesful.

Now I have no problem talking to the girls, I'm not as confident to open sets I don't know to be quite honest. Most of my girls I 'attempt' are gals I've met someone and only see about once a month.

Now I have no problem talking to them, but they truly do not seem as if they are attracted to me or interested.

One of them, a HB9, was quite drunk and was very out of control, talked to me a few times but when someone raised their glass in the air she was already off.

One of her friends, a HB8 was less drunk and talked a bit more, but didn't seem like she was attracted or interested. I didn't really get the chance to routine either, because my friend was in there shouting to her to get her attention, and she did give it. Even though his body language was extremely AFC and so were his words. That I did not understand, is my friend a cockblock?

Different attempt, a HB7 talked to a bit, was in the middle of my routine, about to win a drink and she quickly said, oh I need to go to the bathroom with my friends, as her friends were calling her over.
Definitely no interest from her side as she'd rather go to the bathroom than stick with me. Very bad attempt there.

Different one, a HB8, was very enthousiastic towards me, constantly hugging me and kissing me on the cheek, I was acting like I couldn't care less about had she kissed me on the cheek or not. This is the right attitude right? I sat down with her and started to talk, and she went:" you trying to pick me up, I have a boyfriend you know? ". Very much a shit test, I know, I didn't have much of a proper response though other than: "Ah well, I'll just leave you here then". And walked away.

Now, the friend group I talked about in the beginning, in that group is a HB7. She got 'ungreened' that night by one of my best mates, which is someone she always gossips about, so quite a hilarious scenario. Ungreening means having your first kiss.

Anyway i joked her a bit on that side and her and two of my mates totally turned against me going: you only want people to touch your peepee, right in front of the HB. Telling her I went home just to jack off to her picture et cetera. She happily joined in crapping on me. I tried to withhold my grip but the only thing that followed was loud laughing and another crappy joke.

I was baffled, nothing seemed to work anymore, while one of my best mates just ungreened someone who would have never kissed him.

Are my friend my friends? Are they cockblocking the crap out of me? Or is this merely a race to who gets the most kiss-closes in his life?

I've never kissed a gal myself and I'm quite embarassed of this, but to fix it is harder than it seems

Hope you guys can sort of feel me and tell me what is going on

I'm new to all of this also, but I do have somewhat more experience than you so I will try and make my first attempt at helping someone else on here out

First off, how old are you? Because if you're not 15 or 16, I would suggest going after girls with a different group of friends. Even then maybe it's a good idea, they sound very immature to me, and unless I'm completely missing something in this whole PUA game, I'd say that's probably a good way of DLV'ing yourself. Either that or sitting down and talking with them about how they're acting when you guys are trying to pick up. If you are young, which I'm just assuming now, acting more mature than you actually are (or being more mature than your age would suggest) can only help you out and make you more attractive to chicks.

I'd say don't make a big deal about the hugs and the kisses on the cheek, but if your way of acting like you don't care is just looking at the ground then that is the wrong way to go about it, too. Just be playful and flirt with her, maybe suggest that she's only kissing you on the cheek because she isn't a very good kisser (you're being cocky funny and neg'ing her at the same time)? For the boyfriend thing, I read this somewhere but can't remember where, try replying with something like, "I'm glad that you have a boyfriend, he can entertain you while I'm not around."

Keep it up though, by discovering this community I'm sure that you're going to be a hell of a lot more successful with your first few kisses than I was (because believe me, they weren't attractive!).


And just a quick disclaimer; as I said, I'm also new here.. take everything I said with a grain of salt and hopefully someone with a bit more experience can help you out and maybe tell me where I've got the right and wrong idea also!

Hey there, thanks for your reply.

At the moment I'm 17 years old, almost off to university which can be seen as a fresh new start, meet new people.
The way I see my 'friends' is that they are all very desperate to talk to gals because like I said they are very unsuccesful and therefore desperate to talk to the hot gals we know.

About the gal that kisses me on the cheek and hugs me, nah I'm not looking at the floor or anything. My body language is pretty solid as far as I can tell. And I do flirt with her a bit, but not too long, I walk away pretty quickly.

At any rate, thank you for replying

hey there mate, we all start off at the bottom. i was exactly the same, sitting in the corners and whenever i got someone chatting... it was never going to get anywhere...

i have been on these forums for a while, quietly reading posts and not replying. You'll learn so much here but remember, and i'm sure everyone here will back me... you have to go onto the field and practice.

Its the only way forward.
Best of Luck

just some observations but im no pro...

HB9-It looks like she just slipped away properly positioning yourself prevents that i.e. dont walk head on to your target and when engaging be in a dominant position be the anchor of the circle or wat eva it was.

HB8- Did you consider how you were acting? your AFC of a friend might hav got the upper hand because he became the AMOG you should hav used his loudness to your advantage some kino while u lean in and whisper to her that he is too lound also putting urself between them get him working for attention while you are noticed first

with your friends about the peepee jokes its just a way of gaining the alpha male spot

again im no pro so i could be wrong