i try a lot with a lot of different girls but i dont get any further than nice talking.
what should i do without being a pervert

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Because girls don't like sex.. Yeah RIGHT!
Why else do you think girls have P*ssies

i think your issue may be very similar to mine.l the fact is the whole time you have probably been getting every sign in the world to escalate but you have either been to niave, too shy, or you have thought it impossible that someone could want you that way. so tonights lesson for me.. (when il be going out) is pulling the trigger. I suggest you do much the same.. if you see the IOI's extract the girl and get the kino happening. Mysterys "do you want to kiss me?" line is good because it is prepaired for a no should it arise.. this line should only come up when you have extracted your target and this will be what il be doing tonight i suggest you give it a try./

You're opening and hooking? Nice.

Just work on your kino now. Everything will flow naturally from there.

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You need to show your value, DHV. And you might wanna try cocky-funny. It does more than entertain. It gives you a feel for how to caress the limit without stepping over it. Cocky-funny has helped me very much, it is a way to learn how to be more "not just a nice guy", without sexually harassing anyone.
And you might wanna try laughing at them instead of with them once in a while. I dont say that they are gonna love you for it but it will help you calibrate how far you can go and also develop your alpha male side.

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Treat them like you've known each other for years. Obviously don't forget the kino, that goes hand-in-hand. Be fun and outgoing, don't be afraid to ask those questions only best friends would ask. Rememer, you're out to have a good time, not to "pick-up". Throw in some negs when needed, but remember there is a difference between a neg and a complete insult. The big thing is to get past the "we're strangers" and "we're being nice to each other" part by treating her like you're already best friends. Would best friends ask, "Where do you live?" Good luck!