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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:26 am 
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Hey everyone,

Ive been trying to catch up on the routines, approaches, and openers but I'm stuck after the opening. My approaches appear as if it were a hit and run. I get great responses in the field, but it seems like I cant carry it further than the opening.

Am I just supposed to talk to them and tease them with the pull/push techniques? The negs?

Just some clarification is needed and maybe some sample dialogue after an opener.

I know people have said to do a quick search, but I don't know what key words to put in and it only gives me thousands of results that dont relate to what im looking for.

This is the newbie forum too .. sooo any help would be appreciated.

Thanks again!


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:30 pm 
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Specifically, after the opener and the set hooks. I have to take the assumption here that you may not know what hooks means, so if you do I apologize in advance.

Hooks = the set will become interest in what you are saying and you will see them physically turn toward you now making you part of the group.

Again, after the hook you need to ask one question, "How does everyone know each other?" This tells you the logistics of the group. You need to know who's the boyfriend, brother, best friend, etc etc. This way if you need to switch targets this is your chance to now do it.

Then you go into A2 Female to Male Attraction. This is where you tell short DHV embedded stories to the group. At times you will use a few negs toward your target to show disinterest and disqualify yourself as a pontential suitor. You can also use tools like disinterested body language and false disqualifiers to build attraction with your target while befriending the group.

Then there is A3 Male to Female Attraction. If you are not sure what I'm talking about with A1, A2, A3, etc. Check out the Venusian Arts Handbook or Mystery Method: How to Get Beautiful Women In Bed.

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