I want to do the Newbie mission (go out and talk to random strangers I meet on the street), however I'm a bit stumped as to what to talk about with them (I'm still learning to connect with and be interested in other people).

Any advice that you can give me?

Well I'm also a newbie (this will also be my first post on the site, hello PUA forum) but I've been doing "Newbie missions" for the past few days and I find that opinion openers are great ways to start a topic of conversation with anyone. However the real good ones are based on surrounding events or items. For example I was at a football game and a few hours afterward I was in an elevator with a cute girl and some guy. I asked if they had seen the game earlier and what they had thought of it. Everyone then had something to say because they had all been there.

Because I had asked about a game everyone had attended we instantly had something in common to talk about. I would think this applies to games, concerts, movies, or anything else that you might have in common with the other person depending on your location. I hope this helps.


...now I just need to practice dealing with the AMOG.

first: celeste i feel your pain, but the main thing to do in your mission is be confident and outgoing. it doesnt matter what you say if your acting nervous. once your past that... the topics are open for whatever crazy idea you can find. you can always use an opener involving clothes (anywhere), food (somewhere with food), the weather (a little lame), or even my personal favorite for an indoor place: "oh my god! did you see the fight outside?!"-neil strauss.

and as for BJ, AMOGing is pretty easy. just be loud and voice your opinions. dont be obnoxious, but make your prescence known. dont be the creeper in the corner of the group.

good luck to both of you. in my opinion this is the hardest part of sarging

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Being on a college campus the only Amogs I ever run into are the big weightlifting, I beat the brain out of myself years ago type. My best advice is to not be afraid of them. Try to become a friend of the amog cause then he'll not only let you talk to the girls he's hanging out with, but he could even put in a good word for you or better yet keep other guys away while your gaming. Hopefully thats somewhat helpful.

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Plain and simple I'm better than you. You might not think so, but that won't stop me from thinking it.

haha if he is REALLY big and possibly drunk be careful. it might be hard to sarge with a broken leg. although that could give you some great openers........

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Very true. I probably should have mentioned big, drunk Amogs are an emotional species. What I tend to do with drunk guys is usually ask them how much they had to drink, and I'll always get an outstanding amount because they're trying to impress me. I'll always act impressed so he doesn't break my leg (still a chance he might). Now if you're in a group of people you can turn and in a joking manner repeat to all of them how much he just told you he drank. It works for a great opener cause the people he was with know he's full of shit. I can handle Amogs pretty easily, its the girls that get me all twisted up.

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Lol I'm in the same boat...except for the AMOG stuff... I've always been friends with the big weight lifting types, and I played football for 13 years so I'm always the guy making friends with all the AMOGs there first. I actually live with five lacrosse players in college. I'll walk up to AMOG's at parties and talk to them about whatever, sports, weight lifting, whatever. If they clown you, you clown them right back, AND DON'T GET UPSET. This is the most important part. If you do it's over and they will clown you more and you might as well not hang around them because it's over.

If they say something funny about you I'll be like that was a good one man and I'll give them a pound, which is a huge DHV showing you can take a joke. Then I'll ask them where they bought that shirt, and tell them you saw one in their size at target, AE in a specific mall, whatever. Then tell them you're joking and give them another pound. It's all give take, and if they say something legitimately funny it's ok to give it to them because they did earn it and it's a DHV to be able to handle these situations like you have been around those types of people for years.

Now, if they say something stupid or rude, you call them on it and clown them. If it's rude, I'll say something like "Wow that was rude, didn't your parents teach you any manners? did you grow up in a barn or something?" AND SAY IT WITH A SMILE, because hey it's funny and you're not trying to offend them. Again followed with a "I'm just kidding man" with a pound.

If they get mad, tell them to chill out before the vein in their head explodes, or I tell them to go take a nap and they'll feel better afterward.

If they get mad and want to fight you, I say really loud "Woah Woah Woah, I'm not trying to fight you. You win. I don't know about you but I personally don't like to fight! Getting punched in the face is one of my least favorite things to do! so you win man have fun with that" Then I turn my back and talk to whoever I'm talking to.

It's all about your attitude though, if you act confident you'll be alright. If you act nervous and hold back in conversation you will seem out of place and you will get picked on. period. It's not about the words you say it's about the confidence you carry yourself with. And don't get angry!

Golden wisdom Johnny. Guys are just guys, if you can't relate to another guy and get him to let his amog personality down, your in rough shape with the ladies.

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lol bubba it seems like we are in a similar boat. I'm having trouble with girls! befriending guys has always been easy to me

You can always act like the "I'm new here and don't know anything guy" which is basically where ever you go in location just randomly approach anyone ask for directions or anything relevant to your outside ordeal.

Like if you at a college campus ask where can I find the computer lab, wheres the nearest restroom, how big is the gym here, etc etc.

If your at a coffee shop "have you had their coffee cake here before?"

If your at a mall "is there a hollister here?"

make them simple these types of questions may look like they wont lead anywhere but in actuality they can. It will help defeat approach anxiety cause you aren't running any long scripts and going off memory.

As a newb I made the mistake of attempting to run long scripts that I could not for the life of me remember all the "So Called Attraction Rules" and honestly trying it that way just made it harder than shit especially to practice on your own with no support groups or peers around you.

Best thing to do imo as a newb learning on your own just by text and videos online good practice is do it but not over do it. You don't want to look like a bafoon with a weird agenda in a area where people see you often especially in small cities.

If your going to practice limit it to 2-3 approaches at one time in a given location. You'll eventually develope ideas that will help you expand on your practice so the next encounter you can try other things.

After doing it so often on a daily basis you might find yourself doing something like this:

You: Hey is there a Hollister in this place?
Person: Yea that way.
You: Oh ok I hope they still got their jeans on sale damn I hope I'm not too late you don't know if they are still on sale do you?
Person: Nope/Yea

Then you got yourself a option A or B depending on their answer to keep talking or you can just say thanks bye I should hurry.

Best part about this is you don't look like a bafoon approaching everyone, you weren't implying any flirting or hitting on, and there is no failure in this like "Mm did I say something wrong?" "Shoot what do I say next?" it keeps you in control you can eject anytime without looking stupid ejecting.

Just make sure your topics are relevant to your setting and when your done doing this with ease you can move up on advance material.

Also evaluate your social level such as:

How often do you greet people that you don't know?
How often do you smile?
How often do you actually look at people when your walking or do you just pretend they don't exist?
How often do you speak to your peers?

Things of that nature if your doing too little of them try doing them more often but as I said don't overdo it you don't to look like a clown greeting everyone you see, smiling for no reason, the guy that looks scared of people, the guy that never has anything to say.

I noticed I do this a lot even around people i'm comfortable with but when your with your friends and then they talk about stuff and you say a few words but then sit quiet or you engaged them in this long conversation and it dies off. Don't be scared to say whats on your mind, anything random, anything to keep talking even if its boring eventually you'll say something that hooks its your friends you cant fail with them.

Seriously don't attempt to practice opening at clubs without going with friends. Its a terrible feeling to be alone and turning into a wall flower or guy in the corner with friends you can retreat to them and chill. Clubs seem like an ideal place to practice but honestly clubs as BADBOY says "is a setup for failure". There are too many obstacles in a club that can result in not getting any good ideal practice, I started off with clubs but I always had a friend with me.

Anyway hope that helps...

I apologize Celeste for jacking your topic, I didn't quite mean to. But as I said before opinion openers are fantastic to start up random conversations. Shatter is quite right in saying "be confident and outgoing" but that's not always easy. Opinion openers are easy for me because I generally have a natural curiosity about odd stuff. Another example would be today at work, I had brought a banana to eat with my lunch. There is this cute girl who is my age and works the janitorial duties and comes to clean out my trash right about the same time I eat lunch every day. Today when she came by I asked her: "hey, kind of a random question but how would you open this banana?" Most people open it from the stem side (the side that is attached to the bunch) but I open it from the other end (this is actually much easier, and you don't have to pick the seed from the bottom...it's also the way monkeys do it!). I was curious about how she might open it.

Use your own experiences to your advantage, whether it be curiosity, enthusiasm for certain subject, or something that happened to you that might be worth sharing. It's hard to be confident about something you don't know, so don't try and BS when you have no idea what you are talking about. Start off by sticking to your specialties, and then when you build up confidence you can branch out and start BSing


As for the AMOG...I don't have a problem bonding with other guys either. I grew up playing baseball and football and enjoy the traditional 'guy' stuff. What I was referring to, and it may sound a bit a-holeish, was to be able to handle the AMOG while attracting the girl he is with. I don't want to steal a girlfriend or a wife, just be able to come into a group and work game faster than another guy, to end up winning the girl over. I suppose that might be stealing from another PUA though