next saturday my friend who's a girl wants to go to the mall with me, my 2 guy friends and 3 of her girlfriends.

i would be driving everybody and i was wondering is this a good idea? they want to give us fashion advice and im sure i could neg with that and start up some good conversation with em' and idk if its good that i'm driving while they all socialize in the back

anyway if i do go thro, any negs to say in cars/ at malls?
and do i really need a canned opener for these girls? they are getting into my car, i think i will ask their name and neg on it and pretend like its chinese

when youre in your car, you should probably feel more comfortable because thats your zone, and they are in it. i know i feel that way. so take advantage of the time that youre in your car by breaking the ice in the group(im just assuming you dont really talk to the other 3 girls regularly)

yeah never talked to them ever but my friend i think wants us to hook up? not sure

anyway i think im going to go with it... is two wingman too many? and anyone have any good routines or negs for malls?

d0nt hate... You are driving, if anything.. I would think.. that would put you in a slightly alpha position. They go where you want them to! If you get bored.. you can always play E-Brake! lol just kidding =]

Personally, I find that many newbies just getting into the game.. are always looking for the "Magic line" or perfect routine. Sure they work for the moment.. what about when you run out? Then what do you say.

I teach my students to work off of concepts. Concepts are adaptable and fit any shape like water fills a container. Concepts are what make up the routines. Once you master concepts, you make up your own routines on the fly. Mystery knows concepts to generate routines.. for everyone else to use.

Why not just master the concepts?

Dont hate, instead of trying to go out.. and run lines, and routines try this.

Learn the basics of social dynamics, and just go out to have fun, be playful.. and not care about what happens. Go out to enjoy yourself.

You are the trophy! Tease her, mess with her head a little bit. Be that fun guy.

Once you can master the right mentality, your game will absolutely sky rocket.

If you have any questions for me, feel free to ask in a PM.

thanks man

i am good at conversational skills and giving myself dhv

i just thought conversation would end up being to AFCish... thats how they get girls isnt it? and i would end up needing canned routines to succeed in the field

and yeah i agree driving is a dhv since i dont know if they can or not