hi, all,
i am new and interested in NLP and Speed Seduction.
So if i would like to start with the Speed Seduction, which is the product i should get first?
How about the "Deluxe Speed Seduction Course + Free Fear to Charisma Video (DVD)+6 Bonus CDs"? Since I can't join the seminars.
Please give some suggestions before I purchase them online.

Cheers~~
everc

can anyone help? or real guru never visit "Newbie Questions" section?

there's alot of info on which books to read in the NLP forum. Look on the stickys

kind regards
feff

thanks for the reply, feff.
i know there are a lot of NLP learning material.
and i think if someone masters NLP, basially the person can do anything. not just Seduction. E.g. how to manage your team in the work, how to handle your boss, how to close a deal with "big" client.
NLP will help to do all of them.

But i don't have time to learn the NLP from the ground start. I pretty much have my life in control. Career, personal development. EXCEPT HAVING SEX WITH HOT BABE. =)

I think it is Ross's Fatal Mistake with women #6: Chasing, Not Choosing.

I did have girlfriends, i did have sex. But i would like to improve myself to get the one i really really want and get more.

Hi,

For a taster, you could get Ross Jeffries' book - "How to Get The Women You Desire Into Bed" off ebay for a few bucks. It's not a textbook for Speed Seduction by any means, but it's breezily funny and a decent intro.

For the course, I got the Basic Speed Seduction Home Study Course. It is just a recording of one of his live seminars (lasting over 2 days and 13 discs) and it has a workbook. The recording quality is very amateurish and the soundtrack is cheesier than a Frenchman's foreskin.

If you can get past those 2 failings, the basic course covers most of Jeffries' techniques including weasel phrases, some NLP relating to inner game, tone of voice exercises and some of the more famous patterns and a framework for how to construct your own patterns. It has contributions from Jeffries and a number of acolytes ranging from a college sophomore to a Gulf War veteran. It also has a hidden-mic recording of a student pulling a woman using 3 patterns. I found the course to be well structured with a high level of audience participation. It's mostly very funny and only has one boring bit where they try to convince the students to sleep with married women and it veers way off into a church hall debate.

The home study mail order courses are a bit pricey, and you may be tempted to buy a cheap one off ebay, but beware, I did this initially and it was just cds that some guy had burnt. I subsequently ordered the proper course off Jeffries' site because I wanted to pay the great man his dues and have the workbook also.

For a more general primer on NLP, I found "Unlimited Power" by Anthony Robbins to be surprisingly good - it has good technically sound descriptions of all the basic exercises - though not everyone can stomach Robbins' Captain-America-on-speed persona.

Hope this helps,

Z