Ok where do I start, There is this girl that I used to work with lets call her "Angel". Now she is 2 years older then me and I'm 16 so she's 18, we have been working together for like 7months or something and we are really both into music and I really admire the way she lives her life etc, In general just a really rad girl. Continuing I was talking to this other lady that I work with about my girlfriend problems and saying that I think I'm going to break up with my girlfriend at the time "Kaity". So I'm talking to this lady and She said "you don't like a girl that works here named "Angel" do you!!?" And I took it in then replied with "Oh na, why would you say that?" She replies with "Oh I don't no, I just always thought you guys had a "thing" for each other." I was surprised but content with hearing that. Yet the problem was Angel and I both had partners at the time, but awhile ago we my girlfriend and I broke up and I was pretty cut about it all. Angel and I spoke about it and she gave me advice on what to do. Unfortunately it didn't work. After that Angel and I were still quite close hanging out at work but never having each others myspace or msn etc. So last week right, I called in sick and they call up Angel and tell her she has to work or they will fire her. She replies with "go fuck yourself" then quits, I find out about it and was bummed cause I never got to say goodbye/stay in touch. So the other day I go on myspace, thought to myself *fuck it* and found her on myspace and added her. I messaged her and said "hey heard you quit, just wanted to say bye and Ill miss you." She replies saying "yea they were being dicks" and asked how I was etc. After the normal talk I asked how her and her boyfriend were. She replies with "we broke up yesterday and he moved back to his hometown and I havn't stopped listening to angels and airwaves" (Angels and Airwaves being my favourite band and we'd talked alot about it, it had alittle kick to it) So I reply with "are you okay" etc. She replies with "Myspace is lame, whats ur msn" we have this huge talk on msn and I leave and go to bed before the conversation starts to get to the point were you have to think to keep it going. So I leave it on a good note. She's a HB10 and has the raddest personality. I need help, I have no idea what to do to get us to start hanging out. Any advice will be appreciated =]

thanks
macbeth

Ok, your kind of problem is kinda not what these forums are here for, but I'll try to help.

You already have rapport with her, since you are already mates. That's good. And if old girl at the store said she thinks you like each other then that means that there are some IOI's going on from both parties (IOI's are indicators of interest, look around in the forums, there is a list of common IOI's somewhere. You should probably read it just so that you know what to look for anyway, and if she gives you three within about ten minutes, you're in)

Tell her over msn that you don't want to lose touch, but also that you don't want to be msn buddies. Figure out a place to go together, not a date location as such, but arrange to meet up at the mall or something when you are bored, or even invite her around yours to watch a movie or something if you think that would be accepted by her. The important thing here is that you don't focus on the things that you have already established that you both like (for instance if you both like Radio head, don't go out of your way to arrange to meet at a radio head cd signing or whatever, you know what I mean). It is important to establish to her that you have multiple interests and that you know she does too.

You said you admire the way she lives. Don't go idolizing her or the sex will be terrible. She is 18, she doesn't really 'live her life' yet. Trust me, she is most likely putting on a bit of a front, you probably have more 'life control' - for lack of a better term - than her. And also while I'm here, don't go into your next meeting trying to get her to be your girlfriend. Once you are there, assess the situation and if she wants it straight away, then go for it, but if she is a bit awkward, you may have to work to make her want you.

DON'T meet her with the mindset that you want her babies, you will be awkward and find it hard to interact. You are a busy man and there are a lot of other girls out there waiting to meet you, she is a close friend who is funny and cool, and you want to initiate her into your crew, not your life. And believe this, because it is true. Once she starts playing hard to get, you can do it back, you'll feel the situation and as soon as you find yourself asking 'should I be kissing her?' then kiss her. And don't hesitate. But don't make it a goal to kiss her, make it a goal to probe her to see if she is cool enough for you.

If you feel like you are going to have to change the way you act a bit, you probably will. She most probably will notice this. If she does, and even if she doesn't, tell her that you never really wanted to get too talkative, since you were at work and shit.

It sounds to me like you could have a bit of a fight on your hands for this one, sounds like she wants you, but doesn't know it yet. Push pull her and let her know that you kinda like her but don't get walked all over. Look at a bit of the body language studies on these and other forums and maybe even go out and practice on some randoms if you are a shy fellow.

Good luck dude, and again, don't make it a goal to kiss her, you'll be an awkward motherfucker. Make it a goal to let her know that she can be your friend or something like that, something non sexual.

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