I have been messing around somewhat with openers and they seem to work quite well. After an opener, what is a good order to follow? For example, Opener, neg, maybe story, then what? Thanks.

You use an opener, neg, sometimes neg first... talk leading to dhv so it doesn't come of as wierd, then move on to A3 which is when you get enough IOI'S from her then you ask her questions to show a little interest then you IOI her for reward only.. and IOD when punishing then just go on from there to comfort building

A1- Open (maybe include F.T.C.)

A2- neg (only if you have to) dhv, false disqualifer, locking in.

A3- Compliance testing, screening, kino escalation, qualifiers, compliments, push pull.


There is really no right and wrong order, it depends on the situation, but when put in order it looks something like the above.

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Open the set. Then have stories that make the girls interact with you, like : "I have this friend, and his girl was cheating him with another girl... is this really cheating? "

Girls will say their opinions and so you can neg them, qualify yourself , make some jokes: "If I'm gonna be betrayed one day, I'd rather be betrayed like my friend, don't you think guys? "

Them you can qualify yourself, and start to build attraction with the target, trying kinos, and some stuff like that...

Thanks for the help guys. When you say I need to qualify myself, what do you mean?

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I mean you need to tell stories, or situations that Demonstrate High Value (DHV)... No matter if the story is real or not. You need to show the girls you're worthy. So this will make them be interested on you...

Got it?

OPEN- Say something to the chick

FTC- False time constraint. Say something that shows that you might leave.

NEG- Backhanded compliment. Use sparingly- once or twice at the beginning of the interaction is enough. Say something that comes off as a tease, use it to create positive tension/interest.

DHV- Demonstrate Higher Value. Tell an interesting story that shows some of your positive qualities.

BAIT- Ask her a question that gives the impression that shows neutral interest in her.

HOOK- Give a comment that shows you are interested.

REEL- Ask a question about her that gives the impression that you are open to increasing interest with her.

RELEASE- In response to her answer, say something that gives her the impression that she lost your interest, and now you don't consider her as highly valued.

DHV again, and repeat the cycle. If anything breaks down, you can eject.

I suggest you read the Venusian Handbook to give you a better understanding of the sequence of events in an interaction.

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