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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:03 pm 
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Hey Guys,

I've been going back and focusing on improving my inner-game. The one thing that I'd realy like to know more about is creating presence.

I've heard David DeAngelo say before that when you walk into a club or anywhere you should adopt the frame that this is your house -you own the place. This has helped a bit -But the problem is that I'm unable to create good presence even in my own house!

I've read some things and the way I understood it, I reckon theres two main aspects to creating good presence. One is looking good /grooming and the other is the other stuff -like the way you carry yourself, talk to people, smile etc...

I think I'm alright with the grooming but the other stuff could be improved esp. learning to carry myself better.


Anyone reccomend any particular books I should read or (especially) any exercises I can do to improve presence?

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Hey Guys,

I've been going back and focusing on improving my inner-game. The one thing that I'd realy like to know more about is creating presence.

I've heard David DeAngelo say before that when you walk into a club or anywhere you should adopt the frame that this is your house -you own the place. This has helped a bit -But the problem is that I'm unable to create good presence even in my own house!

I've read some things and the way I understood it, I reckon theres two main aspects to creating good presence. One is looking good /grooming and the other is the other stuff -like the way you carry yourself, talk to people, smile etc...

I think I'm alright with the grooming but the other stuff could be improved esp. learning to carry myself better.


Anyone reccomend any particular books I should read or (especially) any exercises I can do to improve presence?

Cheers
practice confideence in a "9 in 10" excersize where you do 9 approaches in 10 min and remember to stay confident ti works

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Presents? Where? I want presents! :D

Anyways, "the other stuff" is wayyyy more important than the grooming part. Granted, being well groomed is damn important, but still.

This advice may not be very useful if you haven't had the experience, but...

Having the "THIS IS MY HOUSE" attitude is great, but I add something else on top of that. Imagine walking around in your house, where it's your party, AND you just got a blowjob. You're on top of the world. You're the fucking man.

What you do, how you carry yourself, etc etc etc is all going to be determined by your internal state. The better you feel about yourself (independent of external factors), the stronger your presence will be, and the more expensive presents you'll give me.

I'd also look into stuff about projecting sexual state if I were you. Gunwitch talks about it a lot.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:07 pm 
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I'll tell you what I've done and it worked wonders.

You must build a strong inner game. I've managed to do so but now I'm quite in a bad mood so my behaviour is different. This is showing me how important it is to have a SOLID inner game.

Once you have in mind that you are THE SHIT, do this:
1. walk slower than you would normally
2. have your chin up but don't over do it (you want to look confidend and not agressive)
3. be open. don't close yourself in a defensive position. it shows people that if someone tries to attack you, no matter what, you'll be ready to defend yourself.
4. the most important of all I guess.. DO NOT TALK FAST. Just don't. I have many friends who do all the 3 things above but when they open their mouth around me, they become beta and I get like an Alpha +++. They are in a hurry to get me to listen to their thoughts and this is a strong lower value demonstration.
5. when a chick holds eye contact and you are interested, hold the gaze for 4 seconds and then look her down. Don't look to your sides and don't keep staring for long.. She will feel threatened.

Look good, dress good and act like this and you'll see what happens ;)


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:36 am 
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Hey Guys,

Thanks. Great ideas. I might try doing the 10 in 10 mins like Uber said. But I esp. like the idea of using mind sets like Chief said.

I've been working on the kind of things that Santos mentioned. And I'm doing them alright but they could ofcourse be improved more. But what I was thinking of was the kind of presence that Hitler, or Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise exudes. What makes them so good? ls it because they've calibrated the things that Santos was talking about to like an elite level.. or is there something else that they are doing as well apart from this?

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ya wat uhh santos, i think, said wud work wonders

so relly the 10 in 10 with those in mind would destroy the problems

o and use good language nothing like, yo yo fo sho mo fo was poppinin?
(in englsih: hello, how are you friend?)

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o and to answer the celeb and hitler thing, well hitler killed jews homo's and mentally impaired people, which got our attention, and the celebs r in movies and tv and who hasnt ever seen a movie or a tv?

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