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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 12:56 pm 
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Hey, so I basically got this question from another thread, I don't wanna hijack it , so I'm posting it here

If you're with a girl on a date but she just isn't giving you any data during your convo, for example:

..where her answers are along the lines of
What about the greatest day of her life? I don't know. What about the best gift she's ever gotten? Sorry (sincere apology), I can't remember. Her first time getting drunk? I only drank a little, never got really drunk The wildest party she's ever attended? My university music play The first thing she does on a day off? I sleep more...

I may not be a master of reading signs, but this means either the girl isn't into me at all, or she is but she's asian and kind of conservative. What to do when she isn't giving you any opening? (For the record, she still will follow any suggestion I make, like where to go out, trying out a fun activity etc. and I take it that's a good sign)


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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 1:16 pm 
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try to analyze her eye movement, is she panning away from you when she answers or when you speak?
alot of her being interested in you can be read from her body language

try to use her dull answers as a topic
"wow you aren't very talkative are you?"
"that's a boring life"

dunno, but anything to throw her off balance


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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 1:33 pm 
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try to analyze her eye movement, is she panning away from you when she answers or when you speak?
alot of her being interested in you can be read from her body language"
Nope, her eyes are pretty much locked in on mine. Like I said, I'm not experienced at reading body language (in fact, most women would have to hit me with a mallet on the head and drag my unconscious body into their bedroom so that I get the point) but I'm thinking this girl is interested.

I try to lead by example in these conversation openers by telling her my answer for that same question, but still no results.
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"wow you aren't very talkative are you?"
"that's a boring life"
I...'ll think about that


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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 2:23 pm 
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Yeah I agree body language can be tough. But given the dull answers maybe she is just shy? Since she likes hanging with you and likes doing stuff with you. Have you gotten that impression?

The examples I gave should be in a VERY happy/cocky sort of way. Almost as if you are mocking her, but in a fun way! This has helped me break the ice many times before because she feels the need of defending it. Other than that she might just not be a very talkative girl. Maybe she responds better to you just talking?

Anyways, hope you find your luck with her!

Cheers!

Linus


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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 2:43 pm 
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This girl sounds like a bore.. go caveman, escalate, bang her and never call her again. Would you really want anything else with someone with nothing to contribute?


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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 3:35 pm 
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Are you even into her?

If yes.. Why?

And what is this,, 20 questions?

I don't ask questions back and forth on dates man. When you and the woman have chemistry conversations can occur through exchanges of statements. We can go 30-45 minutes without one question being asked between us. Exchanging stories, info, statements, etc.

To me this sounds like a lack of chemistry between the both of you. She can still be attracted to you even if this is the case, but I'm just wondering why you're trying so hard for someone you aren't compatible with. Make her work. Sit back and chill in what some call "awkwardness". Let her break the tension. You're taking on too much. It sounds like you're not full comfortable with yourself.

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 1:08 pm 
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Thanks for the replies guys.

Maybe I didn't make it clear but the conversations aren't limited only to questions, it's a mix with statements. But my point is, when it does come to these questions, I get those bland answers.

Eddie, to answer your question on why I'm with her, it's because all what I'm interested in is her looks, I don't fall in love with her personality. I go for her because of her tits, and her ass, and I stick around if she has something else interesting to offer about herself or something that we might share in common.

I agree that I'm doing all the work and trying to bang her emotional buttons into a frenzy, but I don't think that going for the awkward pauses of silence is the way either. I already tried that on my next date (different girl, same demeanor), and basically it killed all her IOI's and instead gave me IOD's (Indications of disinterest) like checking out the room increasingly, the mercy shot was when she whipped out her phone to check her What'sup.

I might be wrong, but I think that I'm not experienced enough yet to find the openings when I get these answers. I know that these girls are interested -to the point of agreeing to come on a date-, and that they are more shy than your average girl (Remember, they're Asians. Not Americans/Europeans/westerners), so it would take a more resourceful person to overcome that shyness in replies.

That's why I made this thread, to learn until I can gain the know-how to deal with these tricky cases. In retrospect, it may not be about the conversation itself but about making them feel more comfortable before asking these questions, but what do I know..


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My intent wasn't to advise you to "Go for" awkward silence. My intent was to get you to train yourself to remain comfortable, and not go into a mental frenzy if one begins approaches. You're all "giving" and leaving no room to "receive". This will leave a lot of your interactions one sided. And you will continue leave with the same thing you came in with. The the objective of two people coming together to get something to also give something. A woman level of comfort with you has a lot to deal with your own level of comfort with yourself. She is only reflecting back to you that which you are providing her.

If she doesn't feel you are giving anything, she will remain distant, giving you nothing.

What a woman wants more than anything is for a guy to be completely present with her in that moment. Give her your presence. Learn to be there and not just be traveling the complexities of your own mind trying to figure out how to relate to her. Be there.

Too many of us keep our energies in our heads. We get a thought one moment and then an emotion and/or an emotion and then a thought. A woman needs you to drop out of your head, into your body, and be with her in the moment. When you touch her, you attention and energy should be 100% on the part of your body you touch her with. This is the difference between a woman being completely unresponsive to your touch and one thats responsive.

You want something from women you have to first give, and realize that your presence is all she wants. Value it and honor her with it. Drop your mental energy into your body.

For example: If I told you to focus all of your mental energy on your right foot at this moment. With focus you should feel your right foot lightly tingle. You've dropped into your foot. Now train yourself to drop into the rest of your body and be present when you're out with a woman and she'll have no problem opening up to you no matter how shy she may seem.

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