I do not know if it's any different in other countrys but where I live, which is Sweden (Borås), the clubs/bars usually get crowded around 11-12pm and the music starts to get louder.

Before all that the people are not in "party-mode". They usually just want to hang with their friends, Borås is a very "I only want to hang out with my friends" kind of town.

So when should one go out?

So the women there wouldn't love to be swept off of their feet by some amazing guy? Thats what you're saying? Everyones town is going to be a little different, but the fact of that matter is.. IF there is women and men in the same space their is room for seduction to take place.

Have you approached 10 women one night and been told by them all that " I only want to hang out with my friends tonight" ? If not.. Go try first and then come back for advice on how to remedy your issue.

To me it sounds like you're using an excuse not to take action yet.

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Very accurate description i explain this in the club dynamic section in my book:

if the clubs opens at 10:00 which closes 4-5 am depending on your demographic

usually for the first 2 hours there will be more girls than guys but noone is in social mode (to pick up at this time would be not to efficient)... Since everybody is self consious alcohol has not kick in etc... i usually take that time to get into the social mood, get warm up, look at the girls i want to talk to, mingle with people, dance by myself etc... But for the first couple of hours i do not go hard core seduction more social.
I can go on about this for 3 pages..

after about 12-1 that is warm up time people are more getting adjusted to the environment and a bit more social...

1:30 to 2 is more time to start hooking up etc...

2-4 time to lock the girl and maybe pool

i can go about all of this for pages, too lazy now...

when should you go out??? Just lol, go early till and keep going out, you will see and understand club dynamics and answer your own question...

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