so, saturday night i got my first number it went well. HB8.5 white girl blue eyes wow! but anyway i have waited one day and i am planning on calling her tonight what are some things i can talk about so i can go on a date with this girl again ? i number closed in about 4 min and thats when the cops came and the house party was over. i dont know if she gave me her number to get rid of me or what i called her cell phone when she gave it to me it was her number. but i think she does have a little thing for me i assume. when i approached her we exchanged names and i asked how old she was she said 16 i was like man i dont think i should be talking to minors, i turned my shoulders pretending like im going to walk away and she said no wait, but im going to be 17 on valentines day. so can someone give me some tips on how to setup a date?
im 18

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Tips on setting up a date...
hmmmm.

I don't talk on the phone.
At least not for extended periods of time.
I only talk for a minute or 2, solely to set a date.
And I'm always the first to end the conversation.

Anyways.
If I were you, I would just call, say hi or whatever,
say something cocky/funny to tease her,
then say something to the effect of:

"I'm going to ____ at about ____(time and date)... you should join me."

Make it something harmless, being short and simple, like a coffee date.
Invite her to something you were already going to do anyways.
If things go well, you can always continue the date at a new location.
If not, it can end after a short cup of coffee or something.

A David Deangelo approach to this would be to set a coffee date,
saying what I said, with an added:

"Some coffee and stimulating conversation... that way, if you're creepy, I can cut this short with an excuse. Like to go watch my plants grow"

Cocky-funny.

So basics:
* Make the conversation short.
* Be cocky-funny.
* Invite her to something short and simple, that you were already probably going to do anyway.
* Be the one to end the conversation.

If she doesn't agree to your time/date, then tell her what you have open.
Don't ask her what she has available, in attempt to accomodate her.
It's a sign of lower status.
Always state your availability first... and make yourself scarce.

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Yep, element mentioned some very good stuff.

Something I also like to do on the first date is to tease her from the start. For example, if we're going to be walking in a park when it's cold I'll specifically tell her not to bring a coat or she'll be too warm (obviously she doesn't know what we're doing on the date yet) - but I'll make sure I'll bring some extra clothing of mine and tease her with it "Hmm... I'm not sure, this jumper cost a lot of money, how do I know you won't run off with it?"

Also try getting her to bring a completely random stupid object (I think I got this idea from a David D DVD) like a spoon, some handcuffs, a chain, or an orange... when she hears this, she'll be confused and wonder why, it'll play on her mind a lot and she'll keep thinking about you and the date trying to link the object and you together. Infact, she will look forward to the date JUST to peice together the puzzle, this is pretty powerful stuff. When she asks "why the hell did you tell me to bring this?" just say you didn't and deny it -- you *could* link it further and say "damn, you bring handcuffs on your first date?" or something, but it's already served the purpose of getting her to think about you in the build up.

These are just some things which suit my style anyway.

Goodluck and report back ;]

yeah i called her, it rang about 3 times and said call ended i was like whatttt ?
do you think i should wait a day or couple minutes to call her or just dont even call her back ? i was shocked maybe i should just move on. what do you guys think?

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-NOEL 1 2 3-

I hate dealing with that shit.
There are so many possibilities with that.
Because the call just ended, you say?
No forward to voicemail, but no apparent "call was lost"?
What could have happened:

a) She had signal, then lost it.
b) She saw you calling, then hit "ignore".
c) Some other random-ass thing occured... strange things happen.

The problem is, you don't know what happened.

If a) or c) happened, then you'd want to call back in a few minutes.

If b) happened, then she's being flaky (I can't stand it).
Therefore, you wait a day or 3 (lol), and then call.
If she picks up, don't mention what happened (you have to not care),
just set a date with a short conversation.
If she doesn't pick up the phone again, then forget it.
Don't worry about calling again, move on.

Or be like I was one time.
I waited for her voicemail, and called her out on being flaky,
and giving out her phone number just to boost her ego later.

With either option, expect no return call.
(although apparently I stuck a nerve when I left that voicemail, cause she called and apologized, making some bullshit excuse, etc.)

I say call tomorrow.
It's your safest bet.
Ignore my previous negativity, lol.
I just can't stand flaky girls.

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she was at work she called me back, and we talked but she was so busy i just told her call me when you get home, and she actually called me back and we talked and then she asked me if im a relationship type of guy, i told her yeah i am we talked longer than i expected. by her asking me if im a relationship type of guy does it mean she wants to have a relationship with me, or should i just ask her whats up ?

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I say don't put too much stock into it (what she said).
I wouldn't assume she necessarily wants a relationship with you.
But I wouldn't ask her what's up.

In my personal experience, I never address relationship stuff for awhile.
You can set a date to go out and do whatever, but don't call it a date.
You can easily do all the things people in relationships do,
without labeling them with relationship labels.
I just avoid it.

I find that letting things just move smoothly along,
without putting any stress on the "is or isn't this a thing"
works best, at least for me.
It doesn't take much to scare a girl away
(and just cause she brought up relationships doesn't mean she's any different).

Just work your game, whatever your game is,
and don't take to heart her remark about relationships.


[just for the record, I'm kinda tired... so if any of this seemed confusing, or random, or vague, it's cause I need sleep.]

On that note... goodnight.

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